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Engine Type: 999cc liquid-cooled twin-cylinder Unicam® four-stroke
Bore And Stroke: 92.0mm x 75.1mm
Compression Ratio: 10:1
Induction: Fuel Injection (PGM-FI), 44mm throttle body
Ignition: Full-transistorized with electronic advance
So my question would be although we are getting a 999cc engine are we neccesarily getting 999cc power? Will the engine come detune from the factory?
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My guess is it will have a cam designed for torque and the high rpm horsepower numbers will be lower because of this. In the video they say this is a new purpose built motor in the 1000's so its anyones guess at this point. We all know it will be designed to last. It wouldn't surprise me if it is not much harder on gas than the 700, it will be working easier and alot more gears.

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I would not expect the high HP performance of a RZR 1000 etc. as this is still a utility model. However, I believe it will have loads of pulling power.
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Lets see if Honda screws this up. They built an under powered 700, and now they have a brand new engine 999CC that could be a class leading great SXS.


They seem to have listened 6 gears, bigger motor, now lets see if it has 40HP or 75HP. I'm not looking for super duper RZR1000 speed and power, but cross over comparable to a Ranger 900 power.
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Lets see if Honda screws this up. They built an under powered 700, and now they have a brand new engine 999CC that could be a class leading great SXS.


They seem to have listened 6 gears, bigger motor, now lets see if it has 40HP or 75HP. I'm not looking for super duper RZR1000 speed and power, but cross over comparable to a Ranger 900 power.
Being a much more advanced twin cylinder SOHC engine with the same unicam head design as the CRF MX bikes, I can't see a reason why this 1000 would be underpowered. I'm sure Honda has detuned it for both reliability and a larger torque curve but IF this is indeed the same engine that's about to release in the Africa twin CRF1000L then at the very least, parts should be interchangeable. I've heard the African twin is going to make around 110HP so even if the SXS only produces 50-60hp, the potential for more will be there.
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I hope you are right. I was going to buy a 700 till I test drove
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I would be surprised to see Honda release anything like a RZR1000, even thought they could do it if wanted. I suspect the new 1000 is tame but powerful. Overall, I anticipate the unit to perform similar to a 900 Ranger (likely slower in terms of MPH), just my guess.

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I would be surprised to see Honda release anything like a RZR1000, even thought they could do it if wanted. I suspect the new 1000 is tame but powerful. Overall, I anticipate the unit to perform similar to a 900 Ranger (likely slower in terms of MPH), just my guess.


That is exactly how it should perform. Since Honda has the "better" all gear drive, it should be BETTER than the 900 Ranger in every way.


Otherwise how can you justify the increased price and not just go buy the Ranger 900?


I've spent a good bit of seat time in a Ranger 900 and it will rip the trails apart and sling mud like anything else.

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Just got a call today from high up on the Honda Excutive atv chain that they had ride and drive last week. And he said word for word it took out the Wildcat 1000 hands down as well as the Ranger XP 900 no problem at all..
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