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Transmission Life

I've waiting been waiting for demand to slow down and supply to catch up. But I could see myself buying a p5 next summer.

This brings me to my question. If serviced properly what is the expected life in hours and or miles of the dual clutch transmission?

Honda's are known for their reliability, but if you had to replace or have the tranny rebuilt, it can't be cheap.

I've got over 400 hrs and roughly 4300 miles on my Ranger with no belt or tranny issues. I keep everything serviced and don't abuse my stuff, so I figure if I can get over 4000 miles on my Ranger I would think the Honda is good for over 10,000 miles?.....any thoughts?

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Why buy the Honda if your Polaris has had no issues??
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Honda makes a p5 that I can haul my wife and 2 kids. My ranger only hauls 3 and I don't want to buy a crew model.

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I really like the Mule Pro FXT concept or the Pioneer P5. We have a farm and trail ride some. I have a young daughter that can ride up front with my wife and I and then my boy in one of the flip up seats leaving half the bed for gear storage.
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I suspect the transmissions are tested and would hold up well given the scenario you mentioned. I would, however, say if it goes south the fix will be expensive, so with that said, the transmission/engine would be of high priority to maintain and even service more often than suggested. Personally, I think the transmissions will perform well, but in the cases where big tires, mudding, heaving hauling, etc., then the jury is out how well it will handle that level of load/pressure and only time will tell.

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It's a gear to gear transmission, something that has been used since the first atc90. They started with the dual clutch setup in 2009 on the 420 auto Rancher. If taken care if 10,000 miles will be nothing for it. It's new but something that has been out for a while, just a 5 speed version.

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The Pioneer 1000 transmission is automotive quality and should go 60,000 to 100,000 miles. My 2011 RZR 900 went over 8,000 miles on the 1st belt but only 1,800 on the 2nd one. I had to replace both pulleys and the belt. Should be good for another 8,000 miles now. I know how to make a belt drive last.
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The Pioneer 1000 transmission is automotive quality and should go 60,000 to 100,000 miles. My 2011 RZR 900 went over 8,000 miles on the 1st belt but only 1,800 on the 2nd one. I had to replace both pulleys and the belt. Should be good for another 8,000 miles now. I know how to make a belt drive last.
Bob,

I don't doubt Honda build quality one bit but I think you're probably being a little overly optimistic, or you know someone at Honda that I don't. I know you ride a lot from your statements here and various other forums, so I don't mean to offend. I would bet most consumers don't drive these machines any more than 10,000 miles in their life and that's steep. So why would Honda build a transmission that would outlast its intended use by almost 10 times?
My neighbor who passed away a few years ago was old dairy farmer. He drove his Honda Foreman everyday to check cows and had well over 30,000 miles on it with no major issues before he had to quit driving it. And to this day that's the most miles I've seen on any off road machine. Honda has great durability standards, but I just don't think these are 100,000 mile transmissions.
I would love to ask a Honda rep that does their testing what a consumer could expect for transmission life.
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Bob,

I don't doubt Honda build quality one bit but I think you're probably being a little overly optimistic, or you know someone at Honda that I don't. I know you ride a lot from your statements here and various other forums, so I don't mean to offend. I would bet most consumers don't drive these machines any more than 10,000 miles in their life and that's steep. So why would Honda build a transmission that would outlast its intended use by almost 10 times?
My neighbor who passed away a few years ago was old dairy farmer. He drove his Honda Foreman everyday to check cows and had well over 30,000 miles on it with no major issues before he had to quit driving it. And to this day that's the most miles I've seen on any off road machine. Honda has great durability standards, but I just don't think these are 100,000 mile transmissions.
I would love to ask a Honda rep that does their testing what a consumer could expect for transmission life.
I am sure you could only expect 10 thousand miles out the new African Twin motorcycle with over a hundred horsepower, right?
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I am sure you could only expect 10 thousand miles out the new African Twin motorcycle with over a hundred horsepower, right?
I don't understand your question? I know the africa twin is supposed to have the same basic engine as the pioneer 1000.... not sure about tranny...but both have way different applications and uses. I know absolutely nothing about motorcycles....don't want to.

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