Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Chino Valley, AZ
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I want to be clear here: I don't take exception to the Pioneers HP...in fact, i am fine with it. I ride casually in sight-seeing mode. But i have never been shy about climbing a scary hill.
We all know that the 3-speed in the Pioneer has a tall 1st gear. The torque converter does a good job of covering it....until you go higher. At that point, it looses enough power that it can't pull that 1st in tough situations.
What it needs is a lower 1st or low range. Reverse is lower geared than 1st, and i can only imagine what it would be like to have it as a 1st gear. And that's the damnable misery....knowing what this machine could have been had somebody bothered to explore it's capabilities and shortcomings. At this point i would gladly trade some top speed for some type of gear reduction...yet it may never come.
Most of you are low enough that this never becomes a problem, but there are a significant number of riders that will discover this as time goes by and more of these things get out there.
Like most of you, i am a life-long Honda guy. Everything i buy has to surpass the "Honda" test in some way, or i end up buying a Honda. I heard the grumblings about the Big Red ( and lesser extent, the Rincon ) about not pulling tough situations. I ignored this as being mud guys with huge tires....Honda couldn't possibly be stupid enough to build something that works only at the SC test track.
I am now telling you that i was wrong, and its a tough, bitter, expensive pill to swallow. I wish i were like most of you....in places where the Pioneer works great, but high altitude riding is a way of life here in central AZ, and the Pioneer struggles with that. What could have been....
Last edited by DG Rider; 06-30-2014 at 07:35 AM.