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post #21 of 165 Old 07-20-2014, 07:20 PM
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Didn't stall. Started sliding of in the ditch. The rzr 900 slid in the ditch and almost flipped before he rolled back down. I'm free until deer season so.
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No buyers remorse here, my Pioneer does everything I need it to do so far. I can't comment as a Polaris or Can-Am owner but I know a few of them that has buyers remorse.
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No buyers remorse here, my Pioneer does everything I need it to do so far. I can't comment as a Polaris or Can-Am owner but I know a few of them that has buyers remorse.
You can find people with buyers remorse with ANY sxs. At the same time find lots of people who are happy. I bought the P4 for the 4 seat configuration doesn't mean I'm happy about it's shortcomings.

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I ride the Hatfield and McCoy trail with three pioneers a Kawasaki Teryx an Can Am Commander. The pioneers are great all three times the Kawasaki overheats and the Can Am only went on e because it is broke down all five of them where bought brand new in February. They both have buyers remorse.
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Honda's biggest problem isn't with their design of the 700 or even the 500. It's the fact that they didn't release a FULL SPORT MODEL first! The sxs bar is set with the RZR and every body seems to want to compare the 700 and 500 to it. APPLES TO ORANGES PEOPLE!!! The current Pioneers should NOT be compared to RZR's and Commanders. Compare them to Kubota's, Mules and Gators and it's a fair fight. And, I'm sorry for the unfortunate people out there who bought a Pioneer expecting anything else.

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I followed a commander yesterday with a 2" lift and 28" tires.. He tore an axle boot on a root that I rode right over lol.

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I followed a commander yesterday with a 2" lift and 28" tires.. He tore an axle boot on a root that I rode right over lol.
Really? And if the same root would have happened to hit your Honda boot it wouldn't have tore I don't see how this is relevant.

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Honda's biggest problem isn't with their design of the 700 or even the 500. It's the fact that they didn't release a FULL SPORT MODEL first! The sxs bar is set with the RZR and every body seems to want to compare the 700 and 500 to it. APPLES TO ORANGES PEOPLE!!! The current Pioneers should NOT be compared to RZR's and Commanders. Compare them to Kubota's, Mules and Gators and it's a fair fight. And, I'm sorry for the unfortunate people out there who bought a Pioneer expecting anything else.
Actually I think most people are comparing the Pioneer to the Ranger 570 which I think is a fair comparison. I don't expect that that a SxS designed like the Pioneer should compete with 800+ Rzr's and Commanders, for one it would be dangerous as the suspension isn't designed for that kind of performance.

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Really? And if the same root would have happened to hit your Honda boot it wouldn't have tore I don't see how this is relevant.
Apparently you missed our ground clearance argument where tatsoul claimed he had more ground clearance stock than me.. Obviously not, so it's completely relevant to what WE were talking about.

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Apparently you missed our ground clearance argument where tatsoul claimed he had more ground clearance stock than me.. Obviously not, so it's completely relevant to what WE were talking about.

Well it does have more ground clearance but only by a half inch so its hardly worth mentioning. I did miss that cat fight though

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Well it does have more ground clearance but only by a half inch so its hardly worth mentioning. I did miss that cat fight though
Half inch? Try about 6 inches.

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