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post #31 of 68 Old 02-14-2014, 11:27 AM
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The only thing I can think of it has to be the tires The front diff on the gator does not lock only the back
It's a shame the gator wheels won't bolt on the pioneer that would solve the mystery
Out of curiosity, what is the gator running for tires?




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Out of curiosity, what is the gator running for tires?
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27x14
I can't remember the width but the rear is wider than the front

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Just looking from behind the bh look twice as wide I'll get some comparison pics posted of both machines side by side

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I mean, look at my pic again

That is about what the honda will push through in 4wd.. Your saying the gator will do that in 2wd!!

I'm not new to snow. They could be 34" tires. it wouldn't push through that in 2wd!
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Big horn 2.0.
27x14
I can't remember the width but the rear is wider than the front


I think we found the winner of the chicken dinner!

I 100% believe those BH's would make a drastic improvement for that Gator vs the stock Pioneer tires

2inches taller. Probably at least an inch wider. And a decent compound and tread pattern




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A few more random thoughts

I was out with a tracker and a jeep in the woods with this photo below. The snow got slick at the right temps on our second outing, and neither of them could get anywhere easily. I could stop/start on hills they needed a running gun to have a prayer at. I was able to pull the (quite heavy!) wrangler up decent hills when the snow was fresh. On the second outing with just the tracker, the snow was slicker, and I had trouble pulling it up hills. I did once with lots of wheelspin/ jerking the strap, and winched the rest of the many times he needed help.

There was probably 6-7 inches of snow on the ground, and I had zero issues getting anywhere I wanted to go in a woods with little trails/ making our own. The hill in the pic I did have to winch myself up, but, it was very steep. My friend took his tracker down it, and vowed to never do it again lol.

I've been out with a few people familiar with offroading, and I think they have all have been surprised with the pioneers ability off road.

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I like chicken Lol. I also noticed the motor and tranny on the gator is under the bed More weight on the rear wheels

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That would help them in 2wd realtree, anyone ever drive an old VW Bug in the snow, thay had about 3 in clearance but would go surprising good in snow.

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I had an 03' diesel bug. That too was low to the ground, but it went through many a storm extremely well.

Some things go. Some just sit in the snow.




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I'm 49/grew up on a farm/drove tractors, 2wd pickups, 4wd pickups, 3/4 ton pickups, 1 ton trucks (all with and without chains) - growing up.

Maybe your (collective) pioneer is simply superior to mine. Driving in the snow isn't rocket science. Driving side by side another vehicle - obviously in the exact same conditions - makes it difficult to be anything other than objective.

So, either your snow is quantifiably different than what we just experienced, or I got a lemon.
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