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Tie rod installation for dummies (myself included)

Here is my poor attempt at a write up. A big thanks to @Dick, @DG Rider, @toodeep, @realtreegrizzly, and @Holland for the helpful posts and getting me going in the right direction.

Before we start, I take no responsibility for anything you do to your machine. If you don't feel confident after reading this, take it to the dealer.

That being said, this is a pretty easy and straightforward process. The dealer wanted around $300 to do this. I have $33 in parts and an hour of my time. I could probably do it again in 30 minutes.

Jack up the front and take off the wheel. Its clear that the tie rod is bent badly.



Loosen the lock nut using a 19mm wrench



Remove the cotter pin and the ball joint nut using a 17mm wrench



Remove the ball joint by unscrewing it. I counted 17 full turns on mine.

Remove the small clip on the boot with a pair of pliers. The service manual says to cut the metal clamp. You can't see it in the picture but it is on the far end of the boot. A new one from Honda is $3. Slide the boot towards you.



I used a pair of channel locks to loosen and remove the tie rod. It should look like this



Notice the lock washer on the left. The tie rods come with new ones .



Install the lock washer, NOT on the tie rod.



Using channel locks, I tightened the tie rod back. Slide the boot back up. I tried for 20 minutes to use the new metal band to no avail. i decided a zip tie would suffice. Here is the band and part number for those smarter than me.



Reattach the small clamp on the end of the boot nearest you. Reinstall the lock nut.



Then rethread the ball joint. 17 full turns back on in my case



Reinstall the ball joint nut and cotter pin.

Moral of this story, don't let your sister drive your Pioneer. I hope this is helpful. I'll try to answer any questions as best I can.
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Opps..

Glad we could help. If that band is what i think it is you can sometimes get by clamping it with a side cutter. Otherwise they make a special pliers for them. Pretty sure ive seen them at advance auto for around ten bucks. But the ziptie might hold. Nice writeup for others!

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I figured there was a special tool used based on how it looked. I got frustrated and used the zip tie. I gave it a few good tugs and it didn't budge. I'll check it after I get some miles on it and see how its holding up.
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That's a great write-up! You know if everyone just did one, imagine how many we would have..

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Thank you. I was hesitant to do it. I figured the extra hassle of taking pics and the fact that I had never done it before but after all the good info I've gotten from this forum I figured it was the least I could do to give a little back.
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For some reason i thought you were changing the outer tie rod, hence the lock nut tip i gave. I was thinking " how the **** does somebody bend one of those...". This makes more sense.

This is the tool...
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=555441_0_0_
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How did it get bent? Hit something with tire?
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Good write up!! Keep them coming!

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How did it get bent? Hit something with tire?
I'm not sure. My sister and daughter went out riding. She said she was turning and the front tire grabbed and spun her the opposite direction into a tree. She must have hit hard to bend it that much, especially given how short it is.
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