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The big red had a significant amount of engine vibration. Enough to rattle the fillings out of your teeth. I have read that the pioneer utilizes new engine mounts to remedy this, but I'm looking for a real world experience. Has the problem really been solved?
 

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I have no complaints. Still have fillings and no chipped teeth :D
I guess the rubber mounts on the engine are working, but this is our first SxS and I haven't driven any others, so really can't compare.
 

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some people have to complain about something ..... i had a buddy that bought a new dodge pickup and after 3 months of owning it he traded it in for a ford for a huge $$$$$ loss ....i asked him why he got rid of the dodge and he said his favorit coffee mug didn't fit right in his cup holder......always something to complain about
 

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Sitting still, idling, in a big red feels like driving slowly in reverse on a set of outlaws... Lol I'm not even kidding. It causes everything to rattle loudly. However, I'd rather hear the rattle than that nasty squeaking sound pretty much every Ranger I've been around makes....;)


Your buddy, sounds like he has more money than sense....

Me, if I'm gonna drop $10k in one spot, I'm going to know what I'm getting inside and out. I wouldn't trade my foreman for a big red. I've had a lot of seat time in a big red for 3 years now and never have liked it much.

I'll clarify, I wouldn't buy a big red, unless I owned a farm. Good farm vehicle.
 

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The Pioneer seems much smoother running and quieter. That might be just me though since most of my seat time in a BR is one with a hard cab on it.
 

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some people have to complain about something ..... i had a buddy that bought a new dodge pickup and after 3 months of owning it he traded it in for a ford for a huge $$$$$ loss ....i asked him why he got rid of the dodge and he said his favorit coffee mug didn't fit right in his cup holder......always something to complain about
first world problems at its best.
 

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some people have to complain about something ..... i had a buddy that bought a new dodge pickup and after 3 months of owning it he traded it in for a ford for a huge $$$$$ loss ....i asked him why he got rid of the dodge and he said his favorit coffee mug didn't fit right in his cup holder......always something to complain about
Sounds like something a ford guy would do...
 

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i think that the engine vibration was one of the larger complaints about the Big Red, so it makes sense that Honda took steps to remedy the problem. I was considering getting the BG instead of the Pioneer because I thought it would be cheaper for the same, but it turns out that Honda made pretty significant improvements over the Big Red when it made the Pioneer.
 

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Before I was considering the BR but found out about the Pioneer and even had my doubts with the Pioneer, the more im on this forum the better it seems. Thanks for the BR vs Pioneer feedback!
 

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I have a 2009 Big Red and I just picked up my Pioneer last weekend and had a chance to drive the Pioneer on Sunday. Having both models, I can tell you that the vibration issue is gone with the Pioneer and the Pioneer is much more quiet (exhaust note) than the Big Red. The Pioneer is much more responsive on the gas and very light steering in comparison to the Big Red. Suspension is much improved. I think the Pioneer is a home run for Honda. I have no complaints about the Big Red and use it on a hunting ranch but it is more of a utility machine vs. the Pioneer.
 

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I have a 2009 Big Red and I just picked up my Pioneer last weekend and had a chance to drive the Pioneer on Sunday. Having both models, I can tell you that the vibration issue is gone with the Pioneer and the Pioneer is much more quiet (exhaust note) than the Big Red. The Pioneer is much more responsive on the gas and very light steering in comparison to the Big Red. Suspension is much improved. I think the Pioneer is a home run for Honda. I have no complaints about the Big Red and use it on a hunting ranch but it is more of a utility machine vs. the Pioneer.
glad to hear that, a lot of people are saying the pioneer is much better than the big red, wouldn't have been a good thing if it was the other way around lol
 

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Had my 4 person on a decent ride this weekend. Found some extra vibration at around 35kph when driving in 4wd. Smooth as silk in 2wd. Wouldn't normally be driving 35+ in 4wd but forgot it was in. Though I had an issue brewing till I switched back to 2wd and all was well again...

Had her over some pretty rough/rocky terrain. Way easier on the back and arms than covering the same are on a traditional ATV and definitely a lot warmer :)

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Welcome to the forum chief. The length of the front drive shaft might be giving some of that vibration. I'm not sure on that though.
 

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I have a 2009 Big Red and I just picked up my Pioneer last weekend and had a chance to drive the Pioneer on Sunday. Having both models, I can tell you that the vibration issue is gone with the Pioneer and the Pioneer is much more quiet (exhaust note) than the Big Red. The Pioneer is much more responsive on the gas and very light steering in comparison to the Big Red. Suspension is much improved. I think the Pioneer is a home run for Honda. I have no complaints about the Big Red and use it on a hunting ranch but it is more of a utility machine vs. the Pioneer.
congrats on the new Pioneer.

Do you still have the Big Red?

Got any comparison photos between the big red and the pioneer?
 

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Had my 4 person on a decent ride this weekend. Found some extra vibration at around 35kph when driving in 4wd. Smooth as silk in 2wd. Wouldn't normally be driving 35+ in 4wd but forgot it was in. Though I had an issue brewing till I switched back to 2wd and all was well again...

Had her over some pretty rough/rocky terrain. Way easier on the back and arms than covering the same are on a traditional ATV and definitely a lot warmer :)

Cheers,
Chiefkp
Awesome, sounds good so far. I guess you're liking this more than the Big Red? How are you transporting the Pioneer to the location(s) you're using it in.
 

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Never owned a UTV till this Pioneer. Have had 4 wheelers for many years. The vibration has not been an issue.....but I did not expect the Pioneer to be as loud (exhaust) as it is. Maybe my hardtop and windshield accentuates the noise? I'm not too put off by the exhaust....but I did expect it to be quieter.

I use mine for hunting.....so....quiet is good.
 

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Had my 4 person on a decent ride this weekend. Found some extra vibration at around 35kph when driving in 4wd. Smooth as silk in 2wd. Wouldn't normally be driving 35+ in 4wd but forgot it was in. Though I had an issue brewing till I switched back to 2wd and all was well again...

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Chiefkp
I never noticed any vibration in mine driving high speed in 4wd, wonder if that is normal?
 

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Well it was definitely there but only for about a 5kph range around 35. Disappeared above that. Try the 4wd at that specific speed and see what happens. I've seen this in quads before in 4 wheel as well. Do a lot of snowmobiling so very attuned to vibrations/power differences at specific speeds/rpms. Not too concerned as major issues are usually worse at lower speeds and get better at higher speeds. If it gets worse I will start investigating...

This is my first side by side but was looking for a long time till this perfect for me machine came along. Transporting on a two place skidoo trailer.

Again this thing was awesome picking my way over 6-8 inch boulders. Did hit one sharp pot hole at speed on a decent woods road that felt like it came straight up through the front. Was a little more cautious after that.

Whole different world from an atv though. Carrying a chain saw, hunting gear extra gas and my hunting dog comfortably to place that I could only get on a quad before was a real treat.

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yes I still have the Big Red that I keep on my hunting property. No comparison pics but I think the Pioneer is taller and more narrow for sure. The ride is so much better on the Pioneer and so is the exhaust note (much more quiet). Steering is lighter feeling on the Pioneer.. all around it is a great improvement over a very rugged utility machine (BR). The Pioneer is very sporty feeling.. I really like it!
 
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