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Looks like I'll be selling this thing after trapping season. Im tired of coming home everyday soaking wet and covered in mud/water spray from the front tires. I will Def say that this is nothing less than pitiful engineering on Hondas part. With the amount of R&D put into a project like this you would think that this would be something that would be addressed. I can remember when their 4-wheelers had the same problem, then the next year Honda added the stock flares to correct the issue. I sure hope for Hondas sake that they do the same with this unit. I have Rangers and Rhinos both at the deer camp and neither have this issue with stock tires. I love the Pioneer, but there are other bikes out there that perform equally as well that dont have this issue. Ive searched high and low for flares that will fit/bolt on, and toyed with making my own. The bottom line is that we shouldnt have to "rig" something up to keep from having the cab filled with overspray. I am pushing 600 miles on this unit since November and I have driven it through all of the same mud and crud that I experience each year deer hunting and trapping, but this is the only SxS that Ive owned that has this problem. VERY DISAPPOINTED. :mad:
 

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Dang I hate to hear that. I went to pick mine up today and it was missing the back roll bar top piece and I could not leave with it. I have a couple of Honda Jet skis that will spray you so hard in your eyes I don't ride them much because of it.
 

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hate to hear it but the big red doesn't have that issue
 
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Its really a shame too, as I cannot complain about the performance of the bike at all. I use it to run traps on a rather long fur line and it really has been put through a good test this season. plenty of power, good ride, easy on fuel, and plenty of payload capacity. Just sucks to have to ride 5 mph in order to stay dry on the morning after a light rain.
 

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Its really a shame too, as I cannot complain about the performance of the bike at all. I use it to run traps on a rather long fur line and it really has been put through a good test this season. plenty of power, good ride, easy on fuel, and plenty of payload capacity. Just sucks to have to ride 5 mph in order to stay dry on the morning after a light rain.
You say it's the front tires mostly? Can you explain what is getting you wet and where it mostly comes from. Would a windshield help? It's kind of expensive but you can get a fully enclosed accessory for it.
 

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Heck a little visqueen and a couple zip ties you got disposable doors
 

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Take a look at Pacer Performance fender flares at Amazon. These are inexpensive and you can add 2 to 4 inched which might just do the trick.
 

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Take a look at Pacer Performance fender flares at Amazon. These are inexpensive and you can add 2 to 4 inched which might just do the trick.
These are acutally the best "alternative" ive seen yet. i may order a sample strip to look at mounting options. 2-3 inches is likely all it will take.
 

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So just to understand you clearly.... You want to go fast through mud and water in a utility vehicle that has no cab or windshield and not get wet or dirty?

Then, you are willing to take a loss and trade it in because you thought that you would stay clean and dry while riding fast through mud and water in a utility vehicle with no cab or windshield?

Two words for you........
1. coveralls
2. goggles
 

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No machine is perfect for everybody, we should be able to post our Pioneer gripes here without worrying about being attacked.

I have yet to ride in muddy, rainy conditions (the snow seems fine) and if it's as bad as swamperat and few other claim it is, I'd hope an aftermarket company will come up with some flared fenders just for my wife's sake. She my not want to ride in it with me. :confused:
 

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I take back what I said and apologize to Swamprat as I mixed his and anothers post. I deleted my post.
 

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I have a windshield on mine and I notice when driving fast on wet roads a fine spray comes in from the back, the only way to eliminate that is to get a top and back panel. My jeep does the same thing with the top down.

Wet sticky mud does throw up from the front tires I don't think it would take much of a flare to help a lot. I find the tires sticking out a bit are nice in tight trail riding though.

Are there other side by sides that don't kick up mud? I was out with a RZR and he came back dirtier than me.

Assignment Pioneer Forum... Find some fender flares.
 

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These are acutally the best "alternative" ive seen yet. i may order a sample strip to look at mounting options. 2-3 inches is likely all it will take.
If and when you do please post back update as a lot of us are very interested in options. I would have done it but I have a lot on my plate currently.
 

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So just to understand you clearly.... You want to go fast through mud and water in a utility vehicle that has no cab or windshield and not get wet or dirty?

Then, you are willing to take a loss and trade it in because you thought that you would stay clean and dry while riding fast through mud and water in a utility vehicle with no cab or windshield?

Two words for you........
1. coveralls
2. goggles
With all due respect, I don't consider 15-20 MPH on a graded dirt/gravel road or protection levee "riding fast". The pioneer is acknowledged as slower than every other competitive SxS. I did not purchase it for speed to begin with.

I have a ranger and rhino that do not have this problem.

I'm not talking about riding through 12" of water or soft mud and bulldogging water and mud over the hood and into the cockpit.

The overspray I'm referring to is equivalent to riding a bicycle with no fender in the rain on the concrete. It's coming off of the side lugs of the tires and straight up past the edge of the front fenders.

With 600 miles on the bike and spending 2-3 hours a day in the drivers seat, it's not just a random occurrence that I'm spouting off about.

As far as taking a loss goes, yes, I guess I will have to. I use this vehicle 20-30 hours a week for my business and being in the weather this time of year isn't easy dry, much less covered in spray. The mid sized ranger offers a dryer ride.

As far as a cab/windshield goes, without a windshield wiper and washer, the windshield would be rendered completely unable to see through after a half mile run. If there were an easy fix to this, this thread would never have been started. I'll be looking into the above mentioned flares for a possible solution. I started a thread on this same matter six + weeks ago looking for a solution and am still entertaining the notion that one May exist.
 

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I wonder if different tires would help?
It's a good possibility that a different tire would change the spray pattern, but I don't think he is looking to make that kind of investment and not get results at this point.

I can't speak to if the BH's are better or worse at this. Snow has a lot different properties to its flight off a tire then water.
 
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