[Rod]

Hi everybody.

Honda still keeps secret about their sxs power and torque. Are they that bad? Does somebody know why Honda doesn't want to state those specs?

 

[toodeep]

Welcome to the forum.

They never do really. You can usually find it on the C.A.R.B data sheets or similar. I never really cared to know but I could look around to see what I can find.

 

[toodeep]

Appears to be around 36.3 HP.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/ofhrv/ofmcatv_comply/2014/honda_uv_um0030302_675.pdf

 

[hoops]

yep all sources seem to indicate 36hp.

dont see any torque figures yet though.

 

[mr.smith]

What's with the secrecy? I don't see why Honda wouldn't just publish the information. People are going to look for the information elsewhere, so it seems to me that it would make more sense for Honda to just make the information easily accessible.

 

[redhead]

What's with the secrecy? I don't see why Honda wouldn't just publish the information. People are going to look for the information elsewhere, so it seems to me that it would make more sense for Honda to just make the information easily accessible.

I think its because more SxS buyers don't buy based on performance figures. SxS' are used more for work purposes unless you're going RZR. I know while I've been doing my research on Pioneer the most important figures for me have been payloads and towing.

 

[toodeep]

It's not a secret, it's on your title after you buy it.. lol

 

[Moler]

Hi everybody.

Honda still keeps secret about their sxs power and torque. Are they that bad? Does somebody know why Honda doesn't want to state those specs?

Welcome aboard!

 

[rich450es]

i think honda is ashamed at how low it is compaired to other makes .....lol

 

[Rod]

Appears to be around 36.3 HP.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/ofhrv/ofmcatv_comply/2014/honda_uv_um0030302_675.pdf

Hi, toodeep.

Thanks for the input. Curb weight/power ratio seems a bit better than Big Red's one (around 5 pouds less / hp). I've read a lot of people saying BR is underpowered.

What's with the secrecy? I don't see why Honda wouldn't just publish the information. People are going to look for the information elsewhere, so it seems to me that it would make more sense for Honda to just make the information easily accessible.

HI, mr.smith.

Yes, Deere and Kubota are pure work machines and they state power (both of them) and torque (Gators).

 

[Rod]

Welcome aboard!

Hi, thank you.

i think honda is ashamed at how low it is compaired to other makes .....lol

Hi, maybe you're right.

 

[hoops]

still cant find any torque figures.

 

[Thunderun]

It can't be that bad... I haven't been hearing any bad mouthing of the pionner just yet...

 

[hoops]

no that its bad. just hard to find numbers sometimes.

 

[toodeep]

The true readings would be from a dyno machine. The figures above are at the crankshaft. We would want wheel readings to do real world comparisons. Like the 680 Rincon is the same HP but on the dyno it is producing 25-27 HP and about the same for torque (25-27 ft/lbs). I have personally never had one on a dyno so that is based off of info I found on the web.

 

[OLT]

I know in a car you lose about 15% of the power when it travels from the crank to wheels, would the same be expected from the Pioneer?

 

[hoops]

still haven't seen a dyno for the Pioneer yet/
someone here be the first!

 

[Moler]

I am not too concerned about the power but wouldn't mind seeing some numbers just out of curiosity.

 

[hoops]

well its not super important to me. noone has complained about it. but it would be nice to know regardless.

 

[sefar]

I bought my Pioneer today in a dealership that also sells Polaris. Polaris has a sales sheet comparing the Pioneer to the 570 ranger, and puts the HP number out front and center. Doesn't say if that is at the crank or the wheel for either unit though....allows Polaris to claim 25% more HP.