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im just curious cause I haven't really found it anywhere. does anyone know the hp for the pioneer
 

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34 some say 36, but some also think it has the 686 not the 675
 

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oh ok just curious I know they said the Rincon was 34
 

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I just went back and watched it. He said 680cc. So, he must of not been sure and just picked the one in the middle. Hahaha
 

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well i found the California emissions test for it was 27.1 kw output so that's 36.34. but not sure on revs or anything
 

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huh wonder why that is?
 

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guess they sacrificed hp for torque on the pioneer. iv noticed the big red and Rincon kinda act similar and the pioneer feels a lil peppier
 

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I didn't even ask the dealer lol
 
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