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I am upgrading my air cleaner to K&N. I am also going to be using the pre charger. I picked up all of these items on Amazon.com. It was right at $65 total with shipping. The cleaning and oiling kit will last you for years (how many will vary by cleaning frequency).

I will snap some pics and post a write up as I do the install, so if you haven't done this before, you can save yourself the expense of hauling into a shop.

 

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Some people say it's "better" to stick with OEM stuff over aftermarket, even in a case like this. What do you guys have to say about that?
 

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Some people say it's "better" to stick with OEM stuff over aftermarket, even in a case like this. What do you guys have to say about that?
I say it IS better for some people to stick with OEM. The little bit of power and mileage gain probably isn't going to be detectable to more than 10% of the population. Especially on a motor with such small HP #'s. That doesn't mean that it isn't there, it is just hard to perceive.

I have no idea how the K&N compares with the costs of the Honda Filter, because I have never bought an OEM filter. So if anyone is doing this on a cost basis, I apologize, I never considered the numbers.

However, if you plan to open up the exhaust and add a Power Commander or other like minded product, going to a better flowing air filter is a logical first step.

I have hundreds of thousands of miles on the K & N brand. Never an issue. That's on road off road and on the track. And that's why I am adding one to my Pioneer.
 
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the average life span is about 6 to 8 years on a stock foam air filter (cleaning and re oiling 3 times a year ) so if you plan on keeping youre pioneer 36 to 48 years i guess you could get the K&N .....lol
 

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the average life span is about 6 to 8 years on a stock foam air filter (cleaning and re oiling 3 times a year ) so if you plan on keeping youre pioneer 36 to 48 years i guess you could get the K&N .....lol
Look at you pumping out the numbers today. You must have scratch paper or something :)
 
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However, if you plan to open up the exhaust and add a Power Commander or other like minded product, going to a better flowing air filter is a logical first step.
Do you plan on getting any Power Commander mods for your Pioneer as it comes available?
 

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Do you plan on getting any Power Commander mods for your Pioneer as it comes available?
Yes I do plan on it. I run a PC III USB on my Night Train and ZX14R. Just plug in to your laptop and change the fuel curve or ignition. I love em. The ability to make your own custom maps or choose one from their database. You can get it just the way you want it.
 

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Did you ever get this done?

Was the power increase noticeable by itself?
No, I haven't got it installed yet. Its on my list, but the last month of cold snaps and snow has kept pushing it lower. I'm due for my next oil change, hope to hammer both out this week when we get back above zero.

I know from your write up last night that your thinking about one, so I will be as detailed in my analysis as possible.
 

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Did the install this even. Took some pictures as visual aids to anyone who hasn't done this before. This is a 15 minute job if you have a Phillips and straight screwdriver ready to go.

First thing is raising your bed. Is there really only that much room under there?



You need to remove the outer cover. The rubber mounts can be a little tough to pull out, especially when it's cold. I used the handle in the middle while slipping my other hand under the edge to pry up.





Inner cover is next. 6 metal retainers hold it down. They can pop off with some force, so watch your fingers, cause they sting when they hit your frozen knuckles.





Here we are at the stock filter. It's a medium sized Phillips head on the clamp. Loosen the clamp until you can slip the filter off.





You can inspect your intake to make sure it hasn't been sucking poo poo past the filter.



Remove your new filter from the box. Inside you will find a new hose clamp. Don't just toss this away thinking you will use the stock one. They are different sizes.



Now you want to oil the filter. I hold it while spraying. I use a top to bottom spray motion and count "thousand 1" as I make a spray down the side. I then rotate the filter in my hand and repeat until it is oiled all the way around. I then repeat that process so that it has two even coats this will apply about 3/4 of and ounce of the oil.



If your not using the pre filter, you will slip the filter into place and tighten the new clamp.





I am installing the pre filter.



Slip it down over the filter. Try to make sure it is sitting evenly in place all the way around.





Now take the covered filter and slip it into place.



Reinstall the inner cover.



Apply the K&N filter sticker, so if anyone else services the vehicle they know not to toss it.



Replace the outer cover. Pick up your tools and lower your bed.



Turn the key and enjoy the fruits of your labor.
 
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Will it pull a wheelie now?:D:D Sorry couldn't resist Moose:)
 

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My expectations of the performance of the Pioneer after the install of the K & N filter were incorrect. I thought there would be some barely detectable positive effects. Instead.....

It is WAY better than I thought it would be. Starting was easier. Idle felt smoother and there was a perceivable difference in throttle response and low end acceleration.

Not quite enough to pull the wheelie yet CSFI, but definitely a step in the right direction. I'd spend the money on it again.
 

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Really? That's good to hear, does the K&N flow better than the uni filter?
 

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Really? That's good to hear, does the K&N flow better than the uni filter?
I've always heard the K &N flows more air then the Uni. I'll see if I can find some actual numbers.
 

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I'm going to disagree with you on this matter. There is nothing to support your claims as to the enhanced performance. Your perception only is enhanced. I've got two jeeps one has k&n the other is stock. There is no performance difference in the air flowing to engines, as far as I see it the difference is I have time to drink beers waiting for the K&N filter to dry after I have to wash it. I never understood removing parts to install aftermarket parts. Maybe I don't know what Im talking about,maybe I have more money than sense or more sense than money. So I will agree to disagree.
 
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