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Please look at my profile pictures.. This is ridiculous ! And honda says its not a problem. Truth is there powder coating sucks
 

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i dont see all that much of a problem , its just when they powder coated it they didn,t (and cant ) get in the box steel all that good ......just hit it with some primmer and black spray bomb ........ god the way you posted i thought it was rusted threw the frame
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Welcome to the forum. Can I ask what your driving in? I only ask because the back of the brake pads are rusting also, that is very uncommon. If riding in salt water or something similar you might try to find a way to get a good coat of paint on the problem areas. I'm kind of surprised your dealer didn't do that for you.



 

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Salt will corrode like crazy, regardless of powder coat. I see what looks to be salt residue on your rear diff and boots and even in the tailgate. You need to get that stuff off fast. Soap and water is best. Not just spraying with a hose its a pain to remove
 

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Hmmmm, Florida are you one of those people that are all over youtube with the new UTV/ATV's up to their handle bars in the swamp for miles on end? No offense I'm just wondering, I know its probably fun you just won't catch me doing it with my stuff. I work too hard for my money to spend this much on new stuff and then submerge it.

I'm with Moose on this there are signs of salt corrosion on the rear end and I didn't notice the salt residue on the tailgate but it sure looks like it.
 

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No salt at all. I bought it so I can drive my wife and 2 kids 3 and 5 up and down trails and thru some mud. Before the first service I noticed the rust it was 10 days old.


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Not salt it's white mud ( wet sugar sand) our property is near labelle Florida. All fresh water
 

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Well can't say for sure because I'm not familiar with your mud, but I'd say you've been through something that's fairly corrosive. We are all fresh water here too and in a desert to boot but our water is corrosive none the less
 

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Weird. Mine has been through/parked in water to the bottom of the doors as duck hunting transportation most days since the season started, and no rust like that. Looking at those pics, I would have said brackish water right off the bat.
 

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A can of high gloss black spray paint will fix it right up and last a long time. Like I said, I'm surprised your dealer didn't take care of it. A couple seconds and let it dry.
 

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I've never used it personally, but doesn't Rustoleum make a rust encapsulation primer in spray cans?

Hit it with that and then a couple sprays of glossy black.
 

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Really.....

I see you're irritated but guys like you are the worst. You've obviously had it in something corrosive. And you were in water and mud much higher than allowed. Read your owners manual.
Also stop trolling all honda dealers to post your pathetic meme on their social networks. If you have a problem take it up with your dealer and Honda.
Typicall I see this when someone has buyers regret, can't afford the machine, and just wants something to b*tch about.
It's NOT a manufacture defect.
 

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welcome to the forum QUEENB !!!!!!
@ QUEENB please be respect full in youre responsis ......... this is a nice easy going forum without a lot of drama ......and we (moderators and members ) would like to keep it that way ........thanks rich
 

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I see you're irritated but guys like you are the worst. You've obviously had it in something corrosive. And you were in water and mud much higher than allowed. Read your owners manual.
Also stop trolling all honda dealers to post your pathetic meme on their social networks. If you have a problem take it up with your dealer and Honda.
Typicall I see this when someone has buyers regret, can't afford the machine, and just wants something to b*tch about.
It's NOT a manufacture defect.
Welcome to the forum. Honda probably should have sprayed a little paint inside the tubes or better yet capped them off but they didn't. It's not a big deal and an easy fix since it's just cosmetic rust that a power washer should be able to remove. Should it be up to the customer to touch up that little mistake? Probably not but it would most likely cost more to take it back to the dealer than it would to give it a couple squirts of paint.

When people drop 12 grand on a toy (most likely making payments) they can get a little picky. Buyers remorse might be a little of it also if it isn't performing like they would want. I don't know for sure but a little easy fix like this is nothing to worry about. If they wanted they could probably spend a lot of time calling Honda and they would send them a can of touch up paint free of charge. Would that be worth the time and hassle, most likely... no.

Best thing to do is paint it and then go enjoy a weekend with the family.
 

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That's why I posted this with concerns.I shouldn't have to spray paint a new item and nobody wants to help me. Yes I can wire brush it, prep it then paint it but I'm not. No brackish water either. I was at the dealer today visiting it. Lol, I noticed the brakes are not at ll rusty.. Nothing is except where there is no paint/powder coat on the frame and weld spots in the dump bed
 

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That's why I posted this with concerns.I shouldn't have to spray paint a new item and nobody wants to help me. Yes I can wire brush it, prep it then paint it but I'm not. No brackish water either. I was at the dealer today visiting it. Lol, I noticed the brakes are not at ll rusty.. Nothing is except where there is no paint/powder coat on the frame and weld spots in the dump bed
Uh, your pictures clearly show that your rear brake rotor is rusted. You have clearly been in some type of corrosive environment whether knowingly or not. If you continue to ride in such conditions I would be diligent about touching up bad spots.
 

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Not buyers regret or remorse and yes I can afford it. There is not rust on the brakes that is the back of the pad through the opening in the caliper. Just the way my iPhone took the picture. As long as honda won't help me I will keep posting it on honda facebook pages. There was no corrosive exposure other then the elements on a unpainted surface. These frames should be dipped not sprayed!
 

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rust just doesn't happen ...... you need water , salt water or what ever to oxidize the steel .... yes honda didnt spray it very good but the guy that sprayed it is only human ......IMHO just touch it up and move on ......life is too short to cry over spilled milk

i see rust in the 2in receaver are you going after whoever made it (if honda didn't ) too ....lol
 

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That was my bad on the brake thing. The pioneer isn't using the stainless backing plate on that side of the pad.

Good luck on your conquest Matt. If it was me I would just paint it. When you complain enough and if Honda does request the dealer to do it you don't know what kind of prep work they will go through. At least if you do it you know what has been done. Then you can post how you "fixed" Hondas mistake.
 

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As a buyer, its a really good idea to give a machine a good once over. Then discuss any and all concerns with the salespeople or manager of the business, to have these issues addressed before purchase. If you brought that machine into my dealership with that under carriage looking to be soaked in salt, mud, sand (all of which can have corrosive properties) I am not sure I would be able to help you either.

And most warranties only cover rust through, not surface rust. Again, why its important to inspect first. Its also important to maintain a machine by caring for the finish.

Its unfortunate to be in a situation where you bought something and find a flaw after the fact. The problem is, now you own that flaw and have to deal with it. I bet we all have had a similar issue with something we buy now and again. It is what it is.
 
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