Thanks to the green machine I will be stealth in the dismal swamp. The verdict is not out yet on the reds 5 mph advantage. The snow stayed long enough for a little fun. Snow has made for a sloppy mess around here. I am kind of laying low a bit now so as not tear up my farm paths and fields. I live here in north east NC where it is very flat, I need some of the mountain trails I have seen here on the forum with lots of rocks. I really like my new pioneer so far, if I had one complaint at this point it would be the weak tail gate, you can't even sit on it, you know all farmers sit on the tail gate now and then.