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I bought a 2 seater camo machine.The machine has only been ran about 10 mins.Its COLD outside. Can anyone fill me in on servicing this thing. The dealer said bring it back at 100 miles or 20hrs. They said it will take 2 1/2 to 3 hrs at $90/hr for the 1st service. Then who knows what they will charge to change fluids. I didnt buy an extended warranty.
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My dealer says 3 hrs to service 270 bucks I chose no extended warranty too. Owners manual says service to be performed by authorized dealers to maintain warranty
Page 229 of your owners manual. Fifth paragraph. "Warranty coverage will not be voided if you choose to perform your own maintenance". I believe its actually against the law for them to deny warranty coverage for doing your own maintenance. However, if you mess something up, its on you, so let me add this Moose alert!

* * warning** don't do your own maintenance unless you have the skills , knowledge, and equipment.
Also, welcome to the forum Ducksnuff870. I really like that user name BTW!
Welcome to the forum. On the first service just change the oil/filter, check air filter (most likely will still be clean) and check the final drives. I recommend waiting until the second oil change to set the valve tappets on them. The motor gets "broke in" better and then your good to go for a lot longer. If you have some mechanical knowledge all of this can be done easily in the garage. A $50 service manual can pay for itself very fast at those labor rates.
welcome to the forum !!!!!
yea toodeep should know about dealership labor rates ......lol
as said bu toodeep wait for the 2nd oil change to adjust them valves..... unless the valves are making noise
Also, welcome to the forum Ducksnuff870. I really like that user name BTW!
Thanks I'm a duckhunter and I used to use copenhagen snuff and I own 4 870 remington shotguns.
Welcome to the forum. On the first service just change the oil/filter, check air filter (most likely will still be clean) and check the final drives. I recommend waiting until the second oil change to set the valve tappets on them. The motor gets "broke in" better and then your good to go for a lot longer. If you have some mechanical knowledge all of this can be done easily in the garage. A $50 service manual can pay for itself very fast at those labor rates.
Good info thanks. How hard can I run this machine during break in? What oil do I use? Explain the tranny to me please? What oil do I put in the diffs?
Thanks I'm a duckhunter and I used to use copenhagen snuff and I own 4 870 remington shotguns.
Well I was close. I assumed you used the Rem 870 to "snuff" ducks. :)
Good info thanks. How hard can I run this machine during break in? What oil do I use? Explain the tranny to me please? What oil do I put in the diffs?
Don't hammer on it for the first 15 miles.

I'd do a 0w 30 in Ohio

Sae 80 weight in the diffs

Transmission is an automotive type 3 speed. Uses a torque converter and the ECU on the Pioneer has a dual shift map, that senses input to tailor shifts to your driving, IE aggressive or cruising.
Well I was close. I assumed you used the Rem 870 to "snuff" ducks. :)
hey that works too
Transmission is an automotive type 3 speed. Uses a torque converter and the ECU on the Pioneer has a dual shift map said:
Where is the tranny fluid?
Where is the tranny fluid?
it uses the engine oil instead of ATF
Where is the tranny fluid?
Transmission is supplied by the engine oil. Which is a bit of a departure from the usual automatic in a car.
I thought this was the case. Any specific brand you guys are using?
I thought this was the case. Any specific brand you guys are using?
Page 114 in your owners manual lists oil equivalence of an SJ. Non energy conserving.

No graphite or molybdenum additives.

No vegetable or caster based race oils.

Until your warranty is up, I would adhere to an oil in those parameters.
Welcome Ducksnuff870

Welcome to the forum from another Ohio Pioneer owner.
Great site here I think you will enjoy!
Thanks I'm a duckhunter and I used to use copenhagen snuff and I own 4 870 remington shotguns.
Welcome Ducksnuff870, great to see another duck hunter join the party. If I used your formula my name would be DuckEcig400G. I doubt anyone evens knows what an old 400G is.
A Canadian knock off of a mossy 500? :)
Hey this is Canada not China we don't do knock off's. lol

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