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Alright guys, I am brand new to the forum and looking to purchase one of these vehicles. I have always owned Honda products up until last August when I bought a 2013 Can-am Outlander 1000. I am in the process of selling that machine to go back to a Honda, and the Pioneer 4 is what I have in mind. No one in my area has one for me to look at and ride, so I have a couple of questions. My dad owns a 2009 Rhino 700. I have a lot of seat time in that machine and was going to see if any of you could tell me how it compares to the Pioneer. Is there much difference in power between the two machines? Does the Pioneer seem to actually need power steering when aftermarket wheels and tires are added? That Rhino is a pretty tuff cookie to steer with 25 inch tires and ITP wheels is why I ask. How hard are they to maintain? I do not want to be working on it after every other ride. If it's like the Honda's I've had in the past, maintenance will be a piece of cake. The Can-am is ridiculous to maintain! Thanks to all of you who took time to read this. Please share any other advice that you think needs to be brought to my attention before I make my purchase.
 

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Ive had a few rhinos , still have one in fact so i can help you with this . Power is close to the same , the rhino is quicker but the pioneer has more torque IMHO. The pioneer is way easier to steer than the rhino , I have 27" tires and it still easier to steer than a rhino on stock tires . Pioneer is easy to maintain , just change oil and clean your airfilter and thats pretty much it. Going from a rhino to a pioneer is like going from a toyota to a duramax ( saw your screen name ) . Nothing wrong with a toyota just not as heavy duty as a duramax.
 

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I have heard people complain about the lack of power steering. It isn't needed but you can notice the difference. I'm pretty sure if you do a search of the forum that you'll find a thread on it that's already posted up.
 

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I still own a Rhino 660. The Pioneer is much more refined, smoother engine, idle and acceleration. Much quieter while driving. The Pioneer is also quite a bit bigger. One thing I noticed is that the tailgate is about a foot higher. I also found it very interesting that the dump box is only slightly larger, about 1/2" wider and 1" longer, but is not as deep (shallow )
I took my 26" ITP Terracross off the Rhino and put them on the Pioneer, way better traction and the steering is still very easy.
I am very happy with the differences.
 

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I hope you have better luck with selling your can am than I did. You put a honda on CL and you have 25 calls in the first 4 hours, I put my can am on CL and it took 4 months to sell it and 4 price reductions. Started out at book for private sale and ended up 2k below book before it finally sold.

I have 28" Big horns on my Pioneer 4 and it steers just fine, I see no need for PS.

Oh yeah, Welcome to the forum
 

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Bulletproof!!! So far has not let me down Iam running 27 swamplites. You don't need no stinking power steering. Iam in south Florida and ride in some pretty severe mud and terrain and the gearing is ok. the only thing is I wish it was faster. You won't regret your purchase.
 

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Welcome! We sold our camo Can Am Commander XT1000 to get a camo Pioneer 4P ... 2 totally different machines so they're hard to compare, except for one has a belt and the other is low maintenance!
 

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I run 27 inch executioners 10 inch wide on the front with 1 hand steerings and rotating the wheel with my palm sometimes. power is torquy feeling but smooth. the 4 seater has lots of room in the back.
 
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