Hello, I've been reading this forum for awhile, lots of great people & good info on here,you guys pretty much convinced me that the pioneer was what I wanted so I put money down on a camo p2 back in December & it finally came in this week. I haven't been able to run it very much yet but it seems like a very well built machine. I'm replacing a 2011 rancher 420 AT that I've had since the winter of 2012. I have been wanting a side by side for a long while but couldn't afford one & was kind of waiting on honda to come out with one that appealed to me. I've had a couple of polaris atvs but didn't care for the belt drive or the lack of reliability that I experienced. My son raced a honda 450r with gncc & a local series back in 08 & 09, we traveled all over the place from Florida to New York racing every weekend, national races one weekend a local race the next, there was no time for breakdowns. He beat the heck out of that thing & it held up amazingly well. We serviced it faithfully & it never let us down. He won a national championship & local series in 08, and got 2nd in the nationals & 1st in the locals in 09. I've owned a lot of Hondas over the years but that convinced me of the true quality they are made of. I think the pioneer will work perfectly for me. Thanks for all of the info on this forum. Mike