[toodeep]

Anyone that has been around the Honda MUV/UTV since they started probably heard of air filter problems on the BigRed. On the Pioneer they changed the intake system to pull the air from behind the passenger seat area. The BR was located under the passenger seat area on the underside of the machine. In really dusty riding conditions the air filter needed extra cleaning or if the filter wasn't oiled properly it could cause engine problems.

On the Pioneer they also added dust seals (rubber flaps) between the box and the cab to help reduce the dust. All in all it should be a much better design, especially if your riding a lot of dusty trails.

The air box, pretty easy to access.



Here's the air intake snorkel. You can see it route up to the passenger seat area.



Here is the inlet looking at it from the cab.

 

[redhead]

so wheres the Pioneers engine? Was it moved under the bed like Yami did with the Viking or is it under seat?

Any problems with heat leak so far on the Pioneer?

 

[Da-veed]

Good that they fixing things. Shows they listen to the public.

How about cab heat? I know buddies that added doors to random sxs and everytime we stop they open the doors to let the heat out. Might be why the doors are so low??

 

[toodeep]

I haven't had enough time in the Pioneer (plus it's getting pretty cool out here) but the BigRed wasn't too bad for cab heat from the motor. You are sitting about on top of the motor (it's just slightly behind/under you) so you are going to get some, especially on those hot days. The Pioneer seems a touch more open on the bottom side so air should flow across everything pretty good to keep it manageable.

Honda did have some extra covers under the seat area on the BR that was replaced with rubber flaps (held in place by tabs) on the Pioneer. That might let a little more heat into the cab area but it made servicing the machine a lot easier. If it does let a little extra heat through, it wouldn't be hard to lay down a little mat/blanket to help keep it out.

 

[hoops]

just keep moving

no heat problems

 

[mr.smith]

Glad to hear they fixed this problem as I do not want to have to do any more cleaning or maintenance than I have to. I guess we will have to see once people have been using the Pioneer for a while whether or not there are any problems with the new air intake system. Can anyone see any potential problems with the Pioneer?

 

[Da-veed]

What about the oil? Drain? Filter? IF you get bored!

 

[toodeep]

Servicing them won't be too bad to do. When I get one in for it I will take some pictures and make a how to on it. There's a cover that has to be removed to to get to the drain plug (same on the BR). It collects more junk than it protects stuff so I have a few customers that just leave that off. After that's removed the drain plug is right there.

I used a set of car ramps in the front and a floor jack (2-3 ton) in the rear before I got the lift to get the machine off of the ground. Some blocks of wood or anything (it has diff lock and will climb) to get some clearance under them helps when servicing them.

The oil filter on the Pioneer is a lot easier to get to. Just pop the seat off, fold a flap back and remove the bolt to remove the cover. A small catch pan (cut open oil jug) might be handy to keep things cleaner.

Air filter is easy to get to also (pics above). It's just a foam filter so it can be cleaned, oiled and installed again. The final drive levels are easy to check by just removing the filler cap. The fuel filter isn't something you should have to worry about (depending on fuel) and I have to look that one up to see how easy it will be. Like I said that isn't something to worry about except maybe once every year to five years.

When I get the chance to make a how to on it I can be more specific but that is pretty general. Servicing them should be about the only worries for quite a while with them. They are built off of proven mechanics from the atv line, with a few tweaks.

 

[Da-veed]

Sure appreciate it!!

 

[redhead]

as long as i can take care of most of my Pioneers maintenance in my yard I'm perfectly happy.

@toodeep what are the typical problems a SxS will run into as it ages over time? anything large to keep a heads up for?

 

[hoops]

haven't really seen any ATVs that are designed to make oil changes difficult. It should always be easy or it would drive people nuts. its one of the most basic maintenance procedures. same goes for the air filter.

 

[Thunderun]

Anyone that has been around the Honda MUV/UTV since they started probably heard of air filter problems on the BigRed. On the Pioneer they changed the intake system to pull the air from behind the passenger seat area. The BR was located under the passenger seat area on the underside of the machine. In really dusty riding conditions the air filter needed extra cleaning or if the filter wasn't oiled properly it could cause engine problems.

On the Pioneer they also added dust seals (rubber flaps) between the box and the cab to help reduce the dust. All in all it should be a much better design, especially if your riding a lot of dusty trails.

The air box, pretty easy to access.



Here's the air intake snorkel. You can see it route up to the passenger seat area.



Here is the inlet looking at it from the cab.

thanks for taking the time to take the pictures. It makes it easier for a lot of us in the future

 

[rich450es]

haven't really seen any ATVs that are designed to make oil changes difficult. It should always be easy or it would drive people nuts. its one of the most basic maintenance procedures. same goes for the air filter.

hay hoops...... have you ever done a oil change on a honda rubicon ????? there a freak show and very messy to do at the filter (on the bottom of the motor under the POS stock skid plate honda uses )