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I have been doing a lot of research and the Ranger 800 midsize is looking good but I like the reliability and concept of two extra seats in the P4 for the kids. The concerns I have about the P4 is the lack of accessories, power and top speed. Can anyone sway me not to go with the Polaris? Another issue I am having is my ATV (Can Am) is an 800cc and then put a much larger off road vehicle next to it with only 700 seems odd or underpowered. That being said I never have test drived the Pioneer so this is only speculation.
 

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If you are looking for speed then the Pioneer is not for you at all. If you are looking to low maintaince and reliability then the pioneer is perfect. Top speed it 45 with out cab and 40 to 41 with cab. Now this is brand new and not broken in might gain a mile or 2 with cab but not sure. Honda has no belts to brake on you while riding so that gives you a piece of mide on that aspect. Has lots of power and torque. oil change is easy. and for resale you will get more for a Pioneer than for a Polaris or Artic cat due to not shoving then down your throat. test drive a pioneer if your dealer will let you.
 

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If power and top speed are your shopping criterium. I suggest you look elsewhere, or those little numbers on the specs sheet will just haunt you.

I have driven the XP 900 doing farm work. I can't rightly think of one thing it does better than the Pioneer other than going faster.
 

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If you are looking for speed then the Pioneer is not for you at all. If you are looking to low maintaince and reliability then the pioneer is perfect. Top speed it 45 with out cab and 40 to 41 with cab. Now this is brand new and not broken in might gain a mile or 2 with cab but not sure. Honda has no belts to brake on you while riding so that gives you a piece of mide on that aspect. Has lots of power and torque. oil change is easy. and for resale you will get more for a Pioneer than for a Polaris or Artic cat due to not shoving then down your throat. test drive a pioneer if your dealer will let you.
Are there any aftermarket hop-ups to increase the top end? I really like the Pioneer 4 but only a 700cc concerns me for torque ect.
 

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Not a fan of Polaris

Just don't find their products to be that reliable.

But if you want to go fast. The Polaris machines are good.
 

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as of now no after market that i am aware of. Test drive one and i think you will be surprised. Honda is built for work and torque. Also you tube them and watch some videos. When Big red came out they said max pull was 1000 there is a vedio of it pulling 6 big round bales. They weight atleast 1000 a piece. Like i said best thing is to test drive.
 

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curious... If you are looking for a 4 seat for the kids, how fast do you plan to go with them? 40MPH is more than enough for an off road vehicle. (I might be getting old...)
 

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I had my 700-4 topped out at the rev limiter 45mph with the hard top and windshield on it and its got less than 100 miles on it. I do not care if it goes any faster as the trails we ride do not allow for much more than that without serious injury or death resulting. I like the NO BELT Honda and the better reliability over hair raising speed. I guess I am getting older LOL.
 

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Nothing against polaris , have hondas my whole life from a 110 to a 250r i still own a rubicon 2001 have never did any thing but change oil and wash every one i sold they hold there value. I bought a new 1994 polaris 400 4x4 rode it 50 miles and lost $1500 just to get rid of it, i just sold a polaris 800 xp nice machine to buy a pionner m2 and no regrets almost as smooth as a car as far as shifting and i honestly think the ride is better at least so far and i can almost guarante if taking equal care of both machines comparing apples to apples the honda will hold its value alot more than the polaris. This is just a personal opinion. I think the biggest thing when people compare machines they are not even close to comparing them apples to apples. I wish you the best luck with your decision.
 

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Pioneer is like an old jeep it aint fast but dont under estimate its torque. If you wanna go faster then get the polaris but going 60 on a side by side is alot different than 60 on a 4 wheeler. If you want extra seats and enough room to enjoy a good ride with the kiddos go get a a pioneer. If its the lack of torque on a test drive its the stall which since youv driven the belt your not used to grunting. The pioneer will grunt and crawl and you wont have to worry about a belt getting hot. I have a set of 27 executioners and itll turn all 4 no problem in the deepest of mud and haul anything you need to haul. In my own opinion. I have a friend that wish he would of waited and got the pioneer instead of buying the 750 tyrex.
 

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Skorps right, it will do all of that he says with 28's on it too. =p
 

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curious... If you are looking for a 4 seat for the kids, how fast do you plan to go with them? 40MPH is more than enough for an off road vehicle. (I might be getting old...)
It will mostly be a hunting rig and when time allows camping with the family ect. It really needs to fill a lot of tasks unfortunately. If I feel the need for ome speed there is the atv I guess. I guess I wish it was there if I ever needed it.
 

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This month Dirt Wheels magazine did a full test of the pioneer, ranger 800 and the viking head to head. The Honda came out ahead of the ranger in most categories but not speed.
 

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I have the 2013 800 Mid sized, 2011 700 Rhino, and 2013 700-2 Pioneer, and aside from needing front fender flares (which im sure will come soon) the Pioneer is hands down the my choice for daily running. The polaris has its advantage around the house/farm with the releasing rear diff, the pioneer does tear the yard up quite a bit with posi rear. That said, offroad, it shines as I rarely have to use 4x4 where a lot of times with the other two I do.
 

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Yep! I bought a copy at wally world yesterday! Good read!
 

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I have been doing a lot of research and the Ranger 800 midsize is looking good but I like the reliability and concept of two extra seats in the P4 for the kids. The concerns I have about the P4 is the lack of accessories, power and top speed. Can anyone sway me not to go with the Polaris? Another issue I am having is my ATV (Can Am) is an 800cc and then put a much larger off road vehicle next to it with only 700 seems odd or underpowered. That being said I never have test drived the Pioneer so this is only speculation.
if you think your going to be hauling passengers at all I would think the ranger 800 mid sized wouldn't work. I would go for the pioneer 4 or with some sort of full sized ranger that can sit 3 up front. I have only test drove a pioneer at the dealership, but as far as the rangers go their is no comparison between the full sized ranger 800 to the new 900. I put over 5000 trouble free miles in the older style rangers and wouldn't go back after owning the 900.
 
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