[GaPioneer]

I rode in a Polaris Ranger yesterday for the first time and I'm even happier I bought my P-4. That thing was so noisy and vibrated something terrible. The sad part is the State of Georgia bought it with my tax dollars.

 

[redhead]

your government loves you!

 

[Zeus]

Do you work for Georgia state or something? What is Georgia doing with the Ranger?

Glad to hear you still like your Pioneer after spending some time with a rival. Makes me feel like I/you made the right decision.

 

[GaPioneer]

Do you work for Georgia state or something? What is Georgia doing with the Ranger?

Glad to hear you still like your Pioneer after spending some time with a rival. Makes me feel like I/you made the right decision.

I don't work for the state I was just delivering some parts to one of the state parks. I'm not sure how many of the parks have sxs's but at this park the camp ground host and the maintenance crew uses one.

The camp ground host that uses the Ranger said they hated to drive it. It just so happens that the host are good friends of ours so when they finish this tour of duty and come back home I'm going to let they drive my p-4 and see what they think.

 

[DG Rider]

That's funny...I drove a Ranger 570 a few days ago and thought it much quieter, better riding and lighter steering.
I expected it to have more power, but the rest really surprised me.

 

[hoops]

they all work. just buy what works for you and be happy

 

[binfordw]

That's funny...I drove a Ranger 570 a few days ago and thought it much quieter, better riding and lighter steering.
I expected it to have more power, but the rest really surprised me.

Trade it already.

That being said, I don't doubt a NEW Polaris could be nice, quiet, etc. Its what its like after you've owned it a year that concerns me. I've never been a fan of Polaris, I've seen and heard too much troubles from them in general.

As for Sxs's specifically. While I was waiting for my Pioneer to come in, I stood in the driveway and watched a newer Rzr pass the house, and wait at the highway to cross. When it took off, it popped, sputtered, and missed like it was an Old JD. Who cares if it goes 65+ when its NEW, I'll still be hauling crap in my slow, underpowered, can't spin its own tires Honda when others are on their 3rd Polaris.

 

[DG Rider]

Trade it already.

That being said, I don't doubt a NEW Polaris could be nice, quiet, etc. Its what its like after you've owned it a year that concerns me. I've never been a fan of Polaris, I've seen and heard too much troubles from them in general.

As for Sxs's specifically. While I was waiting for my Pioneer to come in, I stood in the driveway and watched a newer Rzr pass the house, and wait at the highway to cross. When it took off, it popped, sputtered, and missed like it was an Old JD. Who cares if it goes 65+ when its NEW, I'll still be hauling crap in my slow, underpowered, can't spin its own tires Honda when others are on their 3rd Polaris.

Well....while you were waiting for your Pioneer, i was out driving mine. Right up until it couldn't pull itself.

You can get butt hurt if you like, but the notion of building an off-road machine incapable of going "off road" is beyond stupid and something you will never hear about them, so no...you may not be hauling anything unless you are on flat ground or pulling it with another machine.

If you don't like my posts, then don't read them. It's that simple.

Now, OP...
The Ranger was quieter, steered easier, and rode nicely. I really didn't expect these, but the quiet and steering part is due largely to having the engine in back, which may have its own problems. As for ride, that's likely due to the lower capacity of the Ranger vs Pioneer.

I would also say that there were several areas that i felt the Pioneer has over the Ranger. Nicer seating, and definitely a heavier build than the Ranger. A better quality feel as well, although i must say that this is the worst Honda ( from build quality standpoint ) I've ever owned. Then there are those 4 seats. I really hope they find something wrong with mine. I really do...

 

[Dick]

DG I am starting to get worried about you? I know your a glass is 1/2 empty type guy but you do realize that stress kills! Stress also rubs off onto the people around you! The Pioneer should be a stress reliever, I know it is for me.

If you think owning a Honda is stressful you might not want to consider buying a Polaris. Every Polaris I ever owned had things break that should never break and that can get frustrating fast...

 

[DG Rider]

DG I am starting to get worried about you? I know your a glass is 1/2 empty type guy but you do realize that stress kills! Stress also rubs off onto the people around you! The Pioneer should be a stress reliever, I know it is for me.

If you think owning a Honda is stressful you might not want to consider buying a Polaris. Every Polaris I ever owned had things break that should never break and that can get frustrating fast...

I'm not stressed, and i'm not the one getting my panties in a wad because someone posted a view that bruised my ego. It was a simple observation posted on my phone until i could get home and expand on it.

If something comes of my trip to the dealer, well...then i am very ecstatic to keep my Pioneer. If not...well then it will hit CL and a ( most likely ) Ranger will replace it. The Pioneers' flaw ( if it turns out to be the case ) is far more stressful to me than replacing a belt now and again, or maybe ball-joints.

Besides...I've owned a Harley. I really doubt a Polaris is any worse than that.

 

[Dick]

I am not getting my panties in a wad! I was just concerned you go on every site and post the same complaints sure seemed like you were getting stressed.

 

[DG Rider]

I am not getting my panties in a wad! I was just concerned you go on every site and post the same complaints sure seemed like you were getting stressed.

Maybe you need to see a doctor not a mechanic, you might have a chemical imbalance and need to be medicated!

I didn't mean you Dick.

As far as i know, i've only posted the same thread on 2 boards with videos in response to members questions about high altitude performance. I even have it on video...yet i am sure someone will soon accuse me of faking that. That discussion got carried over into another board where i have never posted the vid.

And at any rate, i only observed that the Ranger, IMO, rode better, was quieter, and steered lighter...not that the Pioneer was a POS because of it. Someone sure took it that way, though.

 

[binfordw]

There's no need to insult, just trade the damned thing.

 

[carhartt61]

I stole this from another site I'm on.
Respectful rational debate that opens our minds is a significant benefit to participating in a forum with like-minded members.

But be suspicious of those who roam from website to website, and thread to thread, writing lengthy arguments laced with imaginary credentials and demanding that everyone listen to them or they are idiots. Insisting that we all consult them as the only experts, they like to insult those who disagree or challenge their "infinite wisdom."

It's not necessary to call names or belittle others just because their opinion differs.

More breathing, less cafeine and sugar.

 

[Utard]

There's no need to insult, just trade the damned thing.

Exactly

 

[DG Rider]

There's no need to insult, just trade the damned thing.

Thank you. I will...if nothing comes of my trip to the dealer.

It's not necessary to call names or belittle others just because their opinion differs.

Exactly...nor is it necessary to make a disparaging remark towards me because my opinion differs FROM YOURS. Thank you for supporting me.

FYI, the longest post i have written recently is a valve adjustment how-to on the Pioneer. You may all find it in the tech section.

 

[rinconruss]

Sorry to hear you are having problems with your Pioneer. Hopefully your dealer can figure out what is wrong. Bad computer, faulty injector or the rare exhaust issue. Every make/model of vehicles has an occasional lemon. Luckily i have had no problems with my P2. In the end it is just a piece of hardware that is used for a tool, toy or both. If it does not fit your needs, replace it. Someone out there will enjoy it when it is resold.

Good luck.

 

[Dirtslinger]

Well....while you were waiting for your Pioneer, i was out driving mine. Right up until it couldn't pull itself.

You can get butt hurt if you like, but the notion of building an off-road machine incapable of going "off road" is beyond stupid and something you will never hear about them, so no...you may not be hauling anything unless you are on flat ground or pulling it with another machine.

I am new here and trying to learn what I can. Are you saying that the wheels won't spin or that it has no traction? I also saw mention of an issue at high elevation, but that should not be the case with fuel injection.

 

[Thunderstix]

I am new here and trying to learn what I can. Are you saying that the wheels won't spin or that it has no traction? I also saw mention of an issue at high elevation, but that should not be the case with fuel injection.

Here ya go Dirtslinger: http://www.hondapioneerforum.com/fo...-asking-about-high-elevation-performance.html

 

[DG Rider]

I am new here and trying to learn what I can. Are you saying that the wheels won't spin or that it has no traction? I also saw mention of an issue at high elevation, but that should not be the case with fuel injection.

Thunderstix linked you up ( thanks ).
The wheels won't turn. Not enough power due to elevation to overcome the gearing in 1st gear.
Yes, the PGI-FI compensates for elevation changes, but that only keeps the engine running at the proper fuel mixture...it can do nothing to restore the lost power. Only forced induction can do that.

Below 5-6K feet, you can put the Pioneer in a situation where it will stall the tires, but i don't think these are "real" situations. In other words, anything I've tried to actually climb ( rather than "test" the Pioneer ) at those elevations, i have. Unfortunately, pretty much anyway i go, i have to deal with 7000' + at some point.

Its not the Pioneer's power that i have issue with, and i think its adequate for its intent. Its the lack of lower gearing or low range.

It is currently in the shop to be checked out...just in case something is amiss. I have my fingers crossed, but don't have high hopes...no pun intended, as I am not the 1st person to have these issues.