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Ruined a tire already?

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I didn't think these 4 ply tires were going to cut it...LOL. 24 miles on easy trails and got a stick the size of a fat cigar. I'm thinking this weighs twice what my 4 wheeler weighs, with carries twice as many passengers. Ever since I put 6 ply tires on my Foreman, I haven't had a flat since. I don't suppose anyone carries 10 ply for Pioneer? :D No joking, I think 6 ply skins will be a must have tire for these, and perhaps a set of fancier rims like toodeep had on the one he set up.

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Wow! You got it good! Dont guess a patch kit will fix that one. If your gonna get tires, you jus assume get wheels too!
Actually...i think the fronts are 2-ply rated!

The newest DirtWheels has a test of 10 ply ATV runflats. The are expensive.
These OEM 4 plys are crazy expensive also. You could probably boot it and get by for a while. Take a look at the bear claw HTR. It's an 8 ply radial and should make a great all around tire.

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Thanks toodeep for the post. I did order tires and rims this morning from Rocky Mountain in Utah. I ordered 4 of each: GBC Kanati Mongrel Radial
tire (8 ply), and STI HD1 Alloy Wheel 12x7 5.0 + 2.0 Machined as shown. I like the tighter tread pattern like the ones you mounted so I went with these.
Also FYI, I saw a 12 ply run flat,
(Douglas Moapa Run-Flat Utility ATV Tire) that had me thinking, but I was worried about how the ride would be. I think the 8 ply should more than handle my punishment.
I'll upload a pic when I get them mounted up on the machine!


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Did you remember to order lug nuts? The stock ones will not work with aftermarket wheels.
I sure did....thanks for the reminder though. I actually ask the very nice, helpful lady on the other end of the phone for chrome lugs and she said they needed to be a special lug nut for the rim as you stated, as the stock ones wouldn't work. Also ordered chrome valve stems too just for appearance sake.
Also toodeep, I really like your set up with all tires and wheel the same size, front and back. I guess its just appearance, but to me I didn't care for the narrow stock front tire. I should have a picture within in a couple days.
Good deal.. I didn't like the different width of tires either but they did that to help a little with steering effort and radius, I'm guessing. The BR had the same width all around and I liked the stance they had.
Cant wait to see pics!
I didn't think these 4 ply tires were going to cut it...LOL. 24 miles on easy trails and got a stick the size of a fat cigar. I'm thinking this weighs twice what my 4 wheeler weighs, with carries twice as many passengers. Ever since I put 6 ply tires on my Foreman, I haven't had a flat since. I don't suppose anyone carries 10 ply for Pioneer? :D No joking, I think 6 ply skins will be a must have tire for these, and perhaps a set of fancier rims like toodeep had on the one he set up.

That is one fat cigar lol

How the heck did that happen? It must have been waiting for your tire its whole life lol
Seems like Tony Montana cursed your Pioneer by dropping his cigar along the trail you were on :D

A patch kit should help. Just imagine if UTV's and ATV's had run flat tires.
yo Colorado looks like you could use some of these little beastys on your Pioneer


Take a rifle slug to em and keep clicking ;)

Sounds like you do some hardcore trail riding, any suspension mods planned?
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Wow! If I choose a pioneer this spring it will likely get a set of 6 or 8 ply radials right off the bat.
Well those are cool Redhead..you could stick a few nails in those for extra traction on ice ! No worries about pointed cigars on the trails either. I took my tire to the tire shop in town and he said a boot wouldn't last 10 miles, so the tire is shot. I ordered a replacement tire so I will still end up with a set of 4. After thinking, I think it was simply bad luck. A ugly stick in the sweet spot of a slightly weak tire.
Wow! If I choose a pioneer this spring it will likely get a set of 6 or 8 ply radials right off the bat.
a-tack, my 8 plys and rims should be here tomorrow. It's snowing lightly here tonight and I'm elk hunting now morning and evenings, but I'll get pictures ASAP.
Seems like Tony Montana cursed your Pioneer by dropping his cigar along the trail you were on :D

A patch kit should help. Just imagine if UTV's and ATV's had run flat tires.
DWT Mopa's are available as a 12 ply runflat.
DWT Mopa's are available as a 12 ply runflat.
run flats are woeful on road cars, anyone ever run them on SxS/ATV? wondering if some of the complaints about run flats on the road transfer to the trails...

On the road runflats have a shorter lifespan than traditional rubber, but again I'm wondering if this transfers..
yo Colorado looks like you could use some of these little beastys on your Pioneer

Airless tires - YouTube

Take a rifle slug to em and keep clicking ;)

Sounds like you do some hardcore trail riding, any suspension mods planned?
Those are awesome, all you'd have to do is pull out the slug if it's an eye sore and keep on riding after.
perfect excuse for new rims and tires.
Great minds think alike I would be on to the next one is quick if cash was free.
run flats are woeful on road cars, anyone ever run them on SxS/ATV? wondering if some of the complaints about run flats on the road transfer to the trails...

On the road runflats have a shorter lifespan than traditional rubber, but again I'm wondering if this transfers..
I've gotta be honest and say that in 20+ years of riding i've only had one "flat" where the machine actually had to ridden on a flat tire. Don't know if its luck or skill...but i have yet to justify any type expensive flat prevention other than the plugs i carry.

I currently run Black Diamond XTR's in a 6 ply, and they are so stiff that on my quad, they can be ridden flat and you barely notice it. Here soon it will go away for a Pioneer, and the 1300lb machine will no longer have that luxury on any regular tire.
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