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I guess the very first thing I will ask is, can anyone confirm that Honda makes their own shocks (which I doubt, but been wrong before)? If they do not, it seems then that there must be some way to cross reference these shocks to at least get the size and mount configuration. With all the shocks in the world, I find it hard to believe that there is not a better "normal shock" that one could use instead of spending $300/shock to either eliminate or at least lessen the chance of a bottom out. Is there really nothing else that will fit? Aside from wondering if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about, this is what I think about at 4AM when I can't sleep (been awake since 2:50).
 

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I think KYB is making the shocks for the Pioneer. I run highlifter springs on all my 4 wheelers (blade in front and sprayer on back at times) and they help with the added loads.
 

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It would be interesting to get length and spring rates, then match that up with other manufacturers. I doubt they would be $300 a corner to find some nice shocks.
 

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How good of a brand is KYB?
I replaced the shocks on my '77 GMC motorhome with the KYB shocks. 75 thousand miles and still going strong when I sold it. They came highly recommended from mechanics that specialize in the GMC.
 

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would the back shocks from the pioneer work on the front or would they be to stiff or what.
back shocks are longer and wider at the mounting
 
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