[DBCooper]

Talk to me about this. Assume you're talking to a relative stooge (when it comes to wiring anything on a vehicle). You won't be far off!

I see me adding aux. lights to mine (thanks for the write-up, Moose!). I'm wondering if I could place the winch switch in this area? Do the actual switches come with the plate (and you simply label them)?

This is one accessory I'd likely have installed by the dealer (unless you guys can talk me down).

Thanks.

 

[Moose]

If you look in the post "the prodigal winch" by Gulfcoast , you get a great photo of the panel. It comes with the knockouts for the switches, but they added as you go. He has his winch ran through that.

Its a very nice system to make everything "plug n play". The issue people will have is adding anything not proprietary, because its hard to find the right connectors. If you were talking about putting your winch controls where my switches are. It won't be an issue. I plan to put mine there as well.

 

[Moose]

Check out the post. "Light plugs for the accessory box". There is a link to another forum and talks of the connectors and the search it took.

 

[DBCooper]

OK....I'm not positive I understand you!

If you were me, would you go with this harness....or not? If you did, would you have the dealership wire up the winch? That sounds like a lot of extra money to me. I can wire the winch. I likely don't want to tackle the harness and the winch....and I'm not positive I'm going to pay for the Honda accessory winch. I can save $250 or more (it seems) with the KFI mount and buying the winch directly from Warn.

I didn't read the thread (yet) on the connectors. But, I take it they're not easy to find?

 

[GaPioneer]

DB if your going to wire the winch you'll be able to do the harness as well. I did mine "harness" yesterday in about an hour. Assuming you have a 3/8 and 1 1/2 drill bits.

 

[Moose]

I didn't pay much attention to that connector thread. Toodeep might have, as I'm sure he sees questions like that a lot.

Wiring stuff up yourself is really not that hard. My light setup is a fusable link off the battery. Follow the factory path of wires or coolant lines to the front or where ever you want to switch them. Just make sure they are tucked and zip tied. If you don't, underbrush will get them. If your doing an LED setup, you don't need anymore than a 5 amp fuse.

I'd be happy to help you along the way, if you choose that route.

If your not comfortable with doing it yourself. Which is totally fine. Most people have someone else do it. I was lucky enough to grow up working in a speed shop building motors , trannys, and entire cars, including doing complete wiring harnesses. My grandpa and uncle would of been out of business pretty fast if everyone did it themselves.

My advice to you, and to anyone, including myself is. Give it a try. Hooking the link to your battery then run your wires, mount your lights, and before you make it permanent by cutting into your dash test it out. If it doesn't work, try again, or hire it out, no one will ever know, and you'll know you tried.

I still pay people to bore and cross hatch any of the motors I have done. There's no disgrace in knowing the limits of your skills, time, or tools.

 

[DBCooper]

Will the winch purchased through Warn.....plug in....like the Warn winch purchased through the Honda dealership?

 

[rellison110]

I like Moose was reading wiring diagrams and soldering connectors or transistors and such since I was about 7 years old. For the winch, I chose Hondas, warn with the mounting plate because I had already spoken with their mechanics that were having trouble with a after market mount. If you get theirs and follow the instructions, even a non-electrical person should be able to do it. They did a great job and it required 0 modifications. I did have to spend some time looking for parts of the Honda that they were referring to.

I also used the Honda switch plate and fuse box. I am the one that, after much frustration and searching, finally located the matching switches and connectors, and have since then added non-Honda items using their fuse box. At this level, with 5 wires per switch, all,I can say is proceed with caution. Electrical can get expensive if you fry something.

 

[Moose]

Rellison, would you mind posting your info on the plug and play you made possible? I really wish it would be made a sticky. I had two people ask for your info just yesterday.

I can't imagine how much tedious searching you did to track those down, but I for one thank you.

 

[foggy]

I like Moose was reading wiring diagrams and soldering connectors or transistors and such since I was about 7 years old. For the winch, I chose Hondas, warn with the mounting plate because I had already spoken with their mechanics that were having trouble with a after market mount. If you get theirs and follow the instructions, even a non-electrical person should be able to do it. They did a great job and it required 0 modifications. I did have to spend some time looking for parts of the Honda that they were referring to.

I also used the Honda switch plate and fuse box. I am the one that, after much frustration and searching, finally located the matching switches and connectors, and have since then added non-Honda items using their fuse box. At this level, with 5 wires per switch, all,I can say is proceed with caution. Electrical can get expensive if you fry something.

This is some of the issue I have with this honda package. Once you start down this path….you are committing to buy only genuine honda accessories…..which are WAY OVERPRICED.

I get a bit testy when I feel like I have been taken advantage of…..and this is one of those times. If I buy a wiring package, then a wiper, winch, heater and lights…..I've given Honda ALLOT of money for very little product. Their switch package is merely a component of the other items…..and does not allow you to add aftermarket products very easily. I think this is disingenuous on their part. I did not understand this when I "bought into" their accessory wiring package. I think ALL switches and connectors should be included with the wiring package!!

My Honda experience has not made me a happy camper when it comes to their accessories, and lack of availablitlity and information on them.. The product is good…..but I don't like being manipulated as Honda has done here. (can you tell? )

 

[rellison110]

Foggy, I am somewhat in agreement with you, I think they should ave even more specific about the accy switch and fuse box being proprietary, but on the other other hand for those items that they provide, they ave given a plug and play installation, which is great for one people.

Moose, I don't know how to ake it a sticky. I am a good mechanic, but not very techno savy. If you can tell me how to start it, it sounds like I just meed to type all the info in again, which I can do.

 

[Moose]

Moose, I don't know how to ake it a sticky. I am a good mechanic, but not very techno savy. If you can tell me how to start it, it sounds like I just meed to type all the info in again, which I can do.

I copied your text over here. You should just be able to cut and paste it into a new thread. I think the "Tech Talk" section of the forum would be a great spot for it.

Only moderators can make something sticky. I think this is something that deserves to be though. It's info a lot of people can benefit from and the questions you painstakingly found the answers too, get asked a lot.

Here is your write up text.

Using Hondas Accessory Fuse Box for non Honda Accessories

by rellison110 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:00 pm
For those of you that either have or plan to install Hondas accessory switch panel and fuse box, there is an issue that has frustrated me to no end. The switches and plug in connectors are vendor are and proprietary to Honda. Fortunately for any Pioneer owners wanting to install this, I have located and now installed non Honda items using their accessory fuse box and switch panel.

The connectors and associated pins that go inside the connector are available from Mouser Electronics.com and the part numbers are as follows:

Two pin is 538-50-84-1020
Three pin is 538-50-84-1030
Four pin is 538-50-84-1040
The pins is 538-02-08-1002

I have only used the two pin so far, as that was all I need so far. I soldered my connectors.

I purchased switches from OTRATTW.com and they are Carling Tecnologies V series. I chose the Contura two which have two illumination functions. They illuminate with a bar at the bottom of the switch when the head lights are on, and then the designated symbol on the switch lights up when the accessory is in use.

You will need to modify the Honda connectors that plug into the switch panel per Carlings switch wiring diagram. I wired directly into the head light switch wire for the lower illumination function. It is a black and white wire that is under the hood, by the wheel well on the drivers side, and is a two pin connector that if you pull it apart, will disconnect power to the head lights, that will tell you that you have the right wire.

 

[LostConcept]

This is going to be very helpful as I am not just going to use Honda's plug and play accessories. Thanks for the info will be ordering pins this week.

 

[bdech15]

DB, if you don't want to go genuine honda, check out this thread. http://www.hondapioneerforum.com/fo...panel-8-switches-built-fuses-perfect-fit.html

 

[foggy]

DB, if you don't want to go genuine honda, check out this thread. http://www.hondapioneerforum.com/fo...panel-8-switches-built-fuses-perfect-fit.html

I like the looks of this set-up…..and would do this in a heartbeat if I were doing it again. What's not to like here?? This location is ripe for a quality aftermarket wiring kit, complete with fused wiring harness and six switches or so.