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What's with the tail gate? Why doesn't it go flat when open? Maybe I got short cables or something.
 

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Nope, its like that on mine too. Probably about 1 1/2" from flat.

Honda wanted to make sure if you forgot to put your tailgate up, it would be harder for the cooler to fall out the back. ;-)
 

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It's just weird. Doesn't really matter but it's driving me nuts why they did it.
Only thing I can figure is that it has to do with dumping the bed.
 

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I thought I read somewhere that it was so people would not sit on it. But I could be wrong, I was wrong once before.
 

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I don't really have plans to sit on mine. But if I did, I don't think it would stop me.
 
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One thing I know about Honda is they did it for a reason...probably some sort of over-engineering thing to protect against some sort of potential damage. Or maybe it helps with some accessory like the bed extender? It is definitely not by accident and it will be consistent in all pioneers. That's Honda.

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I don't like it for a number of reasons. I think that sloped tail gate is going to be a pain when I try to operate my sprayer out of the back of the Pioneer's bed. Any way to easily remove the tail gate?
 

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I don't like it for a number of reasons. I think that sloped tail gate is going to be a pain when I try to operate my sprayer out of the back of the Pioneer's bed. Any way to easily remove the tail gate?
If you take the hex head bolts out of the cables on the gate, it doesn't look like there is anything in the way of it folding all the way down.
 

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The no sitting thing makes sense. I could see people sitting on it often and that causing things to break. It is an odd thing about the pioneer though. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to fix if you really wanted to though.
 

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IMO, the tailgate is sloped for a couple reasons. To help hold cargo in when it's down and if it is down and you back into something it should try to close instead of breaking.

Anyway a easy fix if you don't like it is to get some flat steel and a couple bolts and extend the bracket. I had a customer machine in so I did this quick with what was just laying around, just happened to be an old brake pad that was close enough. It should give you the idea on what to do though if you need/want the tailgate to sit flat and don't want to find the perfect length of cables. Tailgate will still function as normal also.

NOTE: This machine was returned back to normal after the picture was taken. The brake pad was just to show what was needed to be done with the flat steel.



 

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And that's how you recycle people! Lol
 

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I was hoping the brake pad would make the tailgate slowly lower like it was on a hydraulic cylinder. Just kidding
 

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Sure, slap a piece of brake pad on each side of the cable and the friction as it opens gives that Caddy like hydraulic open. Soapy, you just found your invention.
 

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lol mine is only slightly sloped but because of the plastic when my 100qt cooler is on it. it sits straight. I wouldn't recommend sitting on it unless your a lil guy cause I tried and mine bent inward but popped back right when I got off it
 

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What is the weight rating on the tailgate anyone know
 

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I know my buddy can sit on it with 145lbs but it wont hold my 275lb. and the coller I had sitting on it this week end was about 150lb so id say around 150lb
 

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If the tailgate is not completely flat when open and your hauling a load longer than the bed a lot of the weight will be on the back edge of the tailgate
 

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yeah but once you get to about 100lbs on mine its level with the bed
 

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I'm thinking…..once I get the tailgate level with the bed…..I'm going to place a 5/8" piece of plywood that covers both the box and tailgate. Then I plan to use the surface for my weed sprayer and for my spreader / seeder. The way it is now will only add stress to the top of the tail-gate.

OR, I need to get a receiver mounted carrier to hold my sprayer and seeder. I just think this will increase my length and complicates the situation. Many UTILITY users will want to spray weeds or operate a spreader. I cannot understand why they made this difficult.
 
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