[Thunderstix]

Does anyone know? Also, what is the weight of something like the SS212? I am trying to determine if it is worth getting aftermarket wheels for something other than looks. The rear mudwolf's I will be installing weigh 35lbs (cant recall the fronts but maybe 28lbs I think), so I could benefit from a much lighter wheel, if the difference in the two is substantial. Thank you, thank you very much.

 

[Moose]

Stock front wheel of pioneer weighs 33 lbs.

My SS212 14x8 rim and the 28x9x14 BH 2.0 weighs 37.9 lbs.

 

[Thunderstix]

Are you referring to just the rim on the front or rim and tire?

 

[Moose]

Rim + tire. Total weight of stock wheel is 33 lbs in the front.

 

[Thunderstix]

Thanks Moose. Now if I can figure out just the weights of the two mentioned rims I will be good. I have always assumed there would be a big weight savings but after searching on another forum, lots of guys there say there is not much of a difference.

 

[Moose]

The stock set up is pretty heavy IMO. That steel rim is an anchor and the tire compound is not light weight by any means.

I added 3 inches to the height of the tire and an inch of width, but added less than 5 lbs. I think if you stayed closer to stock size and stayed away from huge lugs, I bet you could shave a respectable amount of weight. Also remember the more weight you add further from the hub increases the force needed to get that tire spinning more so than in close to the hub.

 

[Thunderstix]

I hear ya. The only problem is that I already have the brand new Mudwolf's and can't really afford another set. I can however budget for some much lighter rims. Seems like my only avenue. Thanks for all the responses Moose. I appreciate your input.

 

[skorp1702]

the black rocks I had was 19 and 23 lbs frt/rear and mud wolf 26" is 28/35. I have the executioners at 31/36 lbs. ill let you know how they pull them Saturday night. for right now on the road I don't see much if any difference from the blackrocks as far as acceleration and stopping

 

[skorp1702]

the stockers are 20 and 22lbs front and rear

 

[toodeep]

Off topic but how are you liking the mudwolfs? A friend ran them on his Rincon and I was not impressed with them at all, especially in the winter on frozen ground and snow. Summer months they seemed to do alright though.

 

[skorp1702]

a guy on our lease has them on a rancher in 26s and they do alright in the mud I cant say for the snow cause we don't get any down here.

 

[Thunderstix]

Off topic but how are you liking the mudwolfs? A friend ran them on his Rincon and I was not impressed with them at all, especially in the winter on frozen ground and snow. Summer months they seemed to do alright though.

As you may know from my profile etc I live in Fort Nelson,BC, and currently we have snow deeper than crotch deep. The Mudwolf's hands down are the greatest snow tires I have ever owned, and I have owned Mud Lites and Bear Claws.

 

[Thunderstix]

the black rocks I had was 19 and 23 lbs frt/rear and mud wolf 26" is 28/35. I have the executioners at 31/36 lbs. ill let you know how they pull them Saturday night. for right now on the road I don't see much if any difference from the blackrocks as far as acceleration and stopping

Quite a bit heavier in reality, but hopefully too much so

 

[skorp1702]

well driving on the rd at my house I didn't feel any difference from the black rocks and executioners other than it was a lil harder to turn cause the 10 inch wides on the front. if it turns the executioners well it shouldn't have a problem with the mudwolfs

 

[Thunderstix]

well driving on the rd at my house I didn't feel any difference from the black rocks and executioners other than it was a lil harder to turn cause the 10 inch wides on the front. if it turns the executioners well it shouldn't have a problem with the mudwolfs

Yeah sure seems like it. I think the Executioners are quite a bit more aggressive than the MW's. I love the Kenda tires! If not for the fact that I already had the MW's, I would perhaps lean towards the Bear Claws (I care not about the snow).

 

[Moose]

I like those bear claws too

 

[skorp1702]

Yeah sure seems like it. I think the Executioners are quite a bit more aggressive than the MW's. I love the Kenda tires! If not for the fact that I already had the MW's, I would perhaps lean towards the Bear Claws (I care not about the snow).

I love the rim guards on the kendas usually I inflate to 20 and then take them down to 4 on my wheeler s but I think im going to play with the psi a lil on the pioneer worse that can happen is I pop a bead which is an easy fix I always carry a strap and air compressor when I ride

 

[Moose]

Ether and a book of matches for me.

 

[skorp1702]

Ether and a book of matches for me.

Oh yeah done that too but with gas.