[Thunderstix]

I have way too much time on my hands while I wait another 2 months for my Pioneer dang it! Too much thinking and surfing! So, what are all the opinions on 28" on 14" rims? Believe it or not they are fairly light, especially compared to their beast of a big brother, Mudzilla's ( and my Mudwolf's). From everything I have been reading and rereading, it doesn't appear that the Pioneer will have any issue at all turning them. Fronts 28-9-14 at 23lbs, rears 28-11-14 at 26lbs. I really am torn. The Zilla's are purported to be great in mud and great for all around hard and/or dirt trailriding. I had kinda settled on the Mudwolf's earlier seeing as I installed them recently on my Rancher 420 blah blah. I really like the Bighorn 2.0 like Moose and several others have so these are certainly an option for me with their low weight and cult following. Just looking for some opinions and any real world experience with the Zilla's. I apologize for potentially flogging a dead horse.

 

[rich450es]

zillas are a good trail - mud tire (does everything good but not a pure mud tire or trail tire) and are light but ......they run short ..... if you want a 28in tire then the 28in zillas are only like 27 1/8in tall .........on zillas always buy the next size bigger . also make sure that the zillas will handle the weight of the pioneer 2,4,or 6 ply )

 

[Thunderstix]

I believe the fronts are 425lbs and the rears 525lbs so that should suffice seeing as the Pioneer weighs around 1140 (with tire and rim weight subtracted of course)

 

[Moose]

The Pioneers weigh 1,396lbs and 1,261lbs respectively. The set of stock tires and rims is right at 142lbs. Stock tires have a max load capacity of 661lbs each. If you take two 200lb occupants and 1,000lbs of payload. A P2 is at 2,661lbs. Divide that by 4 and you already have 665.25lbs on each tire. I don't support subtracting tire weight, because the tire is still sitting on itself.

So thats just a max bed load and two medium sized fellas. No extra fuel, or winch, or top, or trailer tongue weight.

Unless you never plan to haul anything in your Pioneer, I wouldn't suggest getting a tire with less than stock weight capacities. You just never know when you might want to or need to use that thing for hauling.

Remember also, that max load weight on tires, is usually at their max pressure as well. Not many people want to run tires at max inflation off road.

 

[Thunderstix]

Good points moose. Do you recall the ratings for the BH 2.0's you installed. Choosing tires is like when you have 500 TV channels to choose from.....I miss the days of one channel and not so many tire choices. One interesting thing regarding the BH 2.0's is that my buddy has them on his 2009 Rhino 700 and I was blown away by how well they climbed out of some pretty steep extremely muddy/slippery ditches, steep enough in fact that my other buddy and I had to hold the front down.....of course my moose was in the back LOL. Truly amazing.

 

[Moose]

Maxxis has the loads listed on the site. I want to say 998lbs each @20psi

 

[Moose]

Checked 965lbs front 1,155lbs rears.

 

[Thunderstix]

Holy cappers! That is a crazy difference. I can see why they are such a great choice. Seems kind of like a no-brainer. Can always count on you for good info Moose, thanks very much sir.

 

[Moose]

Your welcome.

And I understand where you are coming from. I remember night after night of tire photos, height, weight, tread patterns, load capacity, rims, offset, blah blah blah.

It was a lot of pressure to be the first to put 28"s on it. Hehe! It might be safe to say, I put more thought into suspension travel and steering geometry and dynamic movement of this rig than most.

In the end. You get what I perceive to be a better ride. More traction. More stability. More weight capacity. A three inch taller tire and 1" wider tire. AND it only weighs about 5 more lbs per tire than stock when mated with that SS212 14" rim. Its a win win for sure

 

[Thunderstix]

That is the awesome thing about these forums. There is always someone as obsessed or more obsessed about this stuff than you. I am kinda hung up on the Motosport M12 Diesel wheel in 14", be basically the same in the end I suppose. I am coming into a bit of unplanned money so that is why I am quite sure it will be complete rubber and aluminum for it. Will let you know what I decide, but you can probably guess the end result and be correct

 

[toodeep]

I'm testing a set of BearClaw HTR on a Rancher right now and so far I like them. 8 ply radials that are semi aggressive. They ride and handle good on the road and so far are getting great traction on the frozen/muddy hill sides. I don't know what the load rating is on them but that might be another to look at. 27 I think is the biggest ones but they run a little tall, the site puts them at 27.5 if I remember right.

 

[Thunderstix]

I'm testing a set of BearClaw HTR on a Rancher right now and so far I like them. 8 ply radials that are semi aggressive. They ride and handle good on the road and so far are getting great traction on the frozen/muddy hill sides. I don't know what the load rating is on them but that might be another to look at. 27 I think is the biggest ones but they run a little tall, the site puts them at 27.5 if I remember right.

The load rating is pretty low comparatively