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Got to get a battery tender I guess but it turned over just would not start.
 

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Did the battery only do a really slow crank of the motor? If so the tender might help. If it cranked OK.

Did you use the cold start procedure?

If that didn't work, you might have a frozen fuel line if you don't have the freshest gas.
 

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Did the battery only do a really slow crank of the motor? If so the tender might help. If it cranked OK.

Did you use the cold start procedure?

If that didn't work, you might have a frozen fuel line if you don't have the freshest gas.
Dang it I forgot the cold start thing. It turned over normal but did not start. I will try the cold start thing next time it happens. It is in the heated garage at my buddies around the corner. Once it was warmed a little in the garage it started right up.
 

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You might want to add some stable or fresh gas too. Might of froze a line while hauling it home in this. Never know what the dealer filled it with.
 

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Or it just might be COLD, How does the FI work in these temps. I pull started my 02 Foreman for an entire winter with just the choke, (slide choke). I am now having to ride my 2wd 05 Foreman to work and back (plunger style), however it has a carb primer. pump it 5 times and away it goes.

Do the Pioneers have a choke? Honda changed their ATV choke style in 05. Worst thing they did. Elimated the slide choke and went with a plunger.

Todays gas is ****, unless you start the thing everyday or ride it everyday. Who knows.

**** it's gonna be a cold ride at 5am tommorrow morning.
 

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I have been having a lot of problems this year with cold starting (SXS and atv's/ new and old). I'm starting to wonder if it's the fuel quality, colder temps and the flash point drops enough not allowing them to start??? About everyone of them are flooding themselves out when trying to start them.
 

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I've noticed that mine actually starts better if i just twist the key away, not giving the pump time to prime or anything.

Butchers is right...gas is really bad these days thanks to eco Nazi's. He also right in that having Nicky Hayden is a great avatar...
 

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I agree that gas, this year especially, as of late seems almost watered down. I noticed it most in my saws and my boys 90. I have taken to mixing 91 with 89 + ethanol and using stabil in any amount I use or store for my saws, rides, and genny's.

This year is by far the coldest I remember as well. There might be a few dips to 10 below here and there in a normal year before late jan/feb. This year it has been brutal day after day.
 

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Same here Moose usually we see a few days here and there below zero but it has been a month of this and does not look to get better.
 

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Block heaters or oil pan pad heaters

I've seen this prolonged cold before a few times being 60 years young. On air-cooled airplane engines that had to sit out we used "Kat's" brand hot pad heaters silicone to the oil tank. They are ironically made in Mississippi. They are not too pricey. Worked everytime. Being the Pioneer is liquid cooled any automotive block heater could be plumbed in. I usually use 91 octane premium with an additive, it helps and I agree with everyone that the quality of our fuel is down.
 

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Depress the accelerator all the way to the floor, (this cuts the fuel and spark) start cranking the engine and slowly let off the accelerator. At around 1/2 throttle the spark and fuel return and she should fire.

The other method that has worked Moose told me about is to turn on the key and crank for a couple seconds then turn off the key and crank again, for some reason it will fire right away on the second crank. I noticed though that I have to turn the key all the way off for this to work when really cold which I didn't see Moose do on his video, maybe he will chime in. Hope that helps.
 

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cool and thanks. my fuel injected Buell has a light similar to a glow plug light in a truck. The fuel pump runs and the light goes off. It will not start if you try to crank before the light goes out. Sometimes when its cold I have to cycle it a few times before she'll fire up.
 

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Yes. I don't turn the key all the way off, I just wait for the "hum" of the pump to stop. then I crank it again.
 

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I've noticed that mine actually starts better if i just twist the key away, not giving the pump time to prime or anything.

Butchers is right...gas is really bad these days thanks to eco Nazi's. He also right in that having Nicky Hayden is a great avatar...
You bet DG, Nicky Hayden all the way!! Been a supporter since dirt trackin days. Its been a long 5yrs at Ducati. Finally he's come home to HONDA!!
 
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